Something disturbing!! - Page 2

bigbird811 · 10-10-2007, 11:59 AM

In the early, I think David was afraid that he was going to lose his job because he thought he wouldn't land another important role (he was proved wrong by the steadily growing 'Bones') and so he said whatever the show dictated him to. I personally don't think Joss Whedon was against C/A, but he probably cowered in the face of a B/A fans uprise. It was all mayhem and stuff. There was a wall between C/A and the role of main couple, and that wall was the lingering memories of B/A.

Now, I've talked to B/A fans, they are more fanatic than religious cults. That says something.

samsmom · 10-10-2007, 12:39 PM

Well, luckily, not all b/a fans are nutters.

And Joss Whedon, despite his idiot quote about fans coming after him with pitchforks over C/A, has never let the fans decide a storyline. Otherwise, Tara would still be alive, and ConCord would have been just a bad dream Angel had after getting knocked on his ass by the Beast. C/A happened to serve a story line he wanted to tell, until CC exercised her human right to get pregnant whenever she damned well pleased and he trashed her character in response like a spoiled brat who couldn't get his way.

Bert · 10-10-2007, 01:14 PM

I personally think that Joss saw what we all saw in C/A. It was there, whether he wrote it or not. I don't believe it was planned, but then when it emerged, he went with it. Which is why I think he got the whole idea of Evil!Cordy - a mirror of BTVS Season 2, with Angel as the good guy instead of the bad guy.

Where it all went 'wrong' was Charisma getting pregnant.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending the man, and I certainly don't approve of his actions. But he was pretty darn good at his job (In the way Hitler was an efficient dictator and probably got all the gongs at the Annual Dickhead Awards).

To a point.

Kit · 10-10-2007, 01:18 PM

A little OT but still related....

Spoilers for another show's storyline currently airing... the actress who played Dr. Sara (Wentworth's love interest) on Prison Break was recently let go after giving birth to her first child. Apparently, there was a long negatiation. She thought she was promised full time, they wanted her to come back to kill the character...and she refused to come back for her character to be killed...anyway...they (spoiler) decapitated her character in the end. Anyway, it just totally reminded me of how CC was let go. To think we're in the year 2007 and women are STILL be mistreated that way...sad, non?

Edited to add: Don't want to be all paranoid but the conspiracy theorist in me is wondering if this is a FOX thing.

Morrigan · 10-10-2007, 03:16 PM

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Anyway, it just totally reminded me of how CC was let go. To think we're in the year 2007 and women are STILL be mistreated that way...sad, non?

Edited to add: Don't want to be all paranoid but the conspiracy theorist in me is wondering if this is a FOX thing.

Bloomberg LP is notorious for this type of thing, I believe there's 4 sexual discrimination law-suits against them. Very sad in this day and age.

Emmangel · 10-10-2007, 05:54 PM

Can we please watch our spoiler comments please!

I know the episodeic spoilery stuff was in spoiler font, but enough was said before that which gave away a very clear idea of that story thread ending, and I'm now spoiled for it.

I've edited the post and put the rest under the cut to stop this from happening to anyone else.

Gabriella · 10-11-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by samsmom

Well, luckily, not all b/a fans are nutters.

And Joss Whedon, despite his idiot quote about fans coming after him with pitchforks over C/A, has never let the fans decide a storyline. Otherwise, Tara would still be alive, and ConCord would have been just a bad dream Angel had after getting knocked on his ass by the Beast. C/A happened to serve a story line he wanted to tell, until CC exercised her human right to get pregnant whenever she damned well pleased and he trashed her character in response like a spoiled brat who couldn't get his way.

Truer words were never spoken.

What a f***tard.

LordKain · 10-11-2007, 12:42 PM

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Yeah James would do the same thing. It was always B/A Forever until his recent con. He is finally starting to say what he thinks and he believes Spuffy could have worked out possibly.

Anyway what the actors say doesn't matter cause we saw Cangel onscreen and that's what True Love is all about. Nothing anybody can say will change my mind.

They do their jobs and get paid they don't care about the shipper wars.

Actually at a recent convention James compared a prison sentence to being with Buffy and his answer was they both stick with you I guess he doesn't want Spike and Buffy to get together who would because it basically was a prison sentence for any of Buffy's boyfriends especially Angel and Spike.

As For Angel and Cordy as fun as it would of been I simply can't see it working for the simple fact that when it came to the men in Cordy's life she was kind of clueless I mean she just realise that she loved Doyle right before his death and loved Angel right before her's she really did have bad timing didn't she.

Stupid writters at ME.

this is for you Joss you dumb ass.

Bert · 10-11-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LordKain

Stupid writters

There's irony for you...

Sorry! Couldnt resist making the joke!

Gabriella · 10-12-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bert

There's irony for you...

Sorry! Couldnt resist making the joke!

Hey, I laughed.

LordKain · 10-12-2007, 04:44 AM

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Hey, I laughed.

looking at it now I don't think they would of worked out for the simple fact that Cordy was a huge bitch to Angel in Season 2 I mean when he fired the gang he was only looking out for there best interests because he knew he was in a war with W&H the only problem was Angel's team was to niave in inocent at the time to really see things from Angel's point of view this one of off many reasons the show was never a huge success because everyone except Angel was a gullible, naive idiot I mean Angel knew what he had to do he just didn't have the balls to follow through with it which was to blow up W&H with the lawyers and there clients still inside of it.

Not to mention that they left Angel tired to his bed in Eternity when it wasn't even his fault that he morphed into Angelus with friends like thay who needs enermies.

Personally I have always been more of an Angel/Faith shipper then Cordy and Angel one sorry guys and girls I'am can't help it don't kill me.

But hey who am I to say what should of been done I mean Joss gives us what we need not what we want right.

DamnSkippy · 10-12-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LordKain

Personally I have always been more of an Angel/Faith shipper then Cordy and Angel one sorry guys and girls I'am can't help it don't kill me.

I'm not killing you, but I have to ask why you are *here*? This is a Cordy/Angel, Charisma/Cordy centric board. You are an Angel/Faith and a Boreanaz/Angel fan. Not really seeing the connection except to possibly stir up problems by saying things like...

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Cordy was a huge bitch

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with friends like thay who needs enermies

Penny Century · 10-12-2007, 10:04 AM

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I'm not killing you, but I have to ask why you are *here*?

Looking for a megaphone, I suspect.

I should just say "Hitler" right now, and then we be ded fr0m Godwin's Law. But this thread actually has gotten kind of funny.

LordKain · 10-12-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnSkippy

I'm not killing you, but I have to ask why you are *here*? This is a Cordy/Angel, Charisma/Cordy centric board. You are an Angel/Faith and a Boreanaz/Angel fan. Not really seeing the connection except to possibly stir up problems by saying things like...

Because I love and respect Charisma's work on Angel thats why I'am here and was pissed at what Joss and the rest of those jackass writters did to her character as well as herself in general although I won't lie I 'am a way bigger David Boreanaz fan as well as an Angel fan them I'am a Charisma Carpenter or a Cordy fan but that does mean she isn't in my top 5 characters.

Even though I said she was a bitch and she was but with a heart underneath it all and all that she some times was very fickle but as far as a character goes she was a nice person at heart just alittle to gullible not to mention niave for her to be one of my favorite characters.

But looking back at it now who really cares we're all moved on right?

So have the actors as well.

Emmangel · 10-12-2007, 11:58 AM

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But looking back at it now who really cares we're all moved on right?

I'm not even gonna touch this one...

10-10-2007, 01:14 PM	#18
Bert The Evil Potato Chip Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,671	I personally think that Joss saw what we all saw in C/A. It was there, whether he wrote it or not. I don't believe it was planned, but then when it emerged, he went with it. Which is why I think he got the whole idea of Evil!Cordy - a mirror of BTVS Season 2, with Angel as the good guy instead of the bad guy. Where it all went 'wrong' was Charisma getting pregnant. Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending the man, and I certainly don't approve of his actions. But he was pretty darn good at his job (In the way Hitler was an efficient dictator and probably got all the gongs at the Annual Dickhead Awards). To a point. __________________ Bert - lactating threads to death. At Weekends My Name Is Ernie

10-10-2007, 01:18 PM	#19
Kit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 916	A little OT but still related.... Spoilers for another show's storyline currently airing... the actress who played Dr. Sara (Wentworth's love interest) on Prison Break was recently let go after giving birth to her first child. Apparently, there was a long negatiation. She thought she was promised full time, they wanted her to come back to kill the character...and she refused to come back for her character to be killed...anyway...they (spoiler) decapitated her character in the end. Anyway, it just totally reminded me of how CC was let go. To think we're in the year 2007 and women are STILL be mistreated that way...sad, non? Edited to add: Don't want to be all paranoid but the conspiracy theorist in me is wondering if this is a FOX thing. __________________ "Wal-mart is like...the WAL-MART of evil." - Jon Stewart "Never continue in a job you don't enjoy. If you're happy in what you're doing, you'll like yourself, you'll have inner peace. And if you have that, along with physical health, you will have had more success than you could possibly have imagined." - Johnny Carson

10-10-2007, 05:54 PM	#21
Emmangel Administrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,934	Can we please watch our spoiler comments please! I know the episodeic spoilery stuff was in spoiler font, but enough was said before that which gave away a very clear idea of that story thread ending, and I'm now spoiled for it. I've edited the post and put the rest under the cut to stop this from happening to anyone else. __________________ I suppose it's understandable that John felt if he saved the cheerleader, he'd save the world.[/center]

10-10-2007, 11:59 AM	#16
bigbird811 Lieutenant McMuffin Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 184	In the early, I think David was afraid that he was going to lose his job because he thought he wouldn't land another important role (he was proved wrong by the steadily growing 'Bones') and so he said whatever the show dictated him to. I personally don't think Joss Whedon was against C/A, but he probably cowered in the face of a B/A fans uprise. It was all mayhem and stuff. There was a wall between C/A and the role of main couple, and that wall was the lingering memories of B/A. Now, I've talked to B/A fans, they are more fanatic than religious cults. That says something.

10-10-2007, 12:39 PM	#17
samsmom Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Posts: 713	Well, luckily, not all b/a fans are nutters. And Joss Whedon, despite his idiot quote about fans coming after him with pitchforks over C/A, has never let the fans decide a storyline. Otherwise, Tara would still be alive, and ConCord would have been just a bad dream Angel had after getting knocked on his ass by the Beast. C/A happened to serve a story line he wanted to tell, until CC exercised her human right to get pregnant whenever she damned well pleased and he trashed her character in response like a spoiled brat who couldn't get his way.