The "Relative Chaos" Thread (SPOILERS)

[Freakface]

I liked it... not the best movie but I can relate to all the family dynamics. I can relate to this because I have a lot of brothers, sister, and close cousins that we can get competive when games are played.

One of my favorite scene is the fighting over Monopoly because that happens often in my family, though not that violent.

One scene I was hoping for is when Gil (Nicky) snuck into the shower and wished it was Katherine (Charisma) in the shower.

BTW: Still love the Charisma cleavage...

[Jessica]

I only saw the last five minutes and all I have to say is he's an ass and she is going to do so much better without him.

[Livvie]

Just finished watching it over here on the west coast. I was surprised. It was entertaining. My husband enjoyed it though he did say and I quote "And here comes Katharine, naked, riding the bear!" during the April/Dil kissing scene. So I think he was just in it for the miles of cleavage.

My mom watched it with us and she isn't a CC fan. Not that she hates her but she was objective in it. She thought Dil was an a-hole. My mother, who never curses, called him that. The whole movie she couldn't understand how Dil was going to leave Katharine because she was so nice and supportive. I agree with her. I was expecting Katharine to be full on b*tch here. Hell on wheels. She wasn't. She just wanted Dil to realize and see the fantastic person she saw.

We all got a huge kick out of NB as Gil though. Fave part, after the shooting where he goes "Is there a lot of blood?" in that voice of his. I cracked up for some reason.

I thought it was cute. Not the worst movie I have ever seen. If I have to pick between this and the two Lifetime movies, this one wins the vote every time.

And was it just me or did they say son of b*tch like a ton of times? And the thought of Terry Bradshaw taking Viagra to get his hydraulics or whatever going...yeah...that is going to cause the nightmares.

[Morrigan]

Originally Posted by Livvie

"And here comes Katharine, naked, riding the bear!" during the April/Dil kissing scene. So I think he was just in it for the miles of cleavage.

Everyoe keeps talking about cleavage but I really didn't notice anything odd. They were prominent in the bedclothes scene but that's what nighties are for . I actually thought Catherine's other wardrobe really didn't flatter Charisma at all.

My mom watched it with us and she isn't a CC fan. Not that she hates her but she was objective in it. She thought Dil was an a-hole. My mother, who never curses, called him that.
The whole movie she couldn't understand how Dil was going to leave Katharine because she was so nice and supportive. I agree with her. I was expecting Katharine to be full on b*tch here. Hell on wheels. She wasn't. She just wanted Dil to realize and see the fantastic person she saw.

I was expecting that too and in a way it was nice to see a movie go against type. However, it left you wondering why he dumped this girl? Yes, she was a bit controlling, so I could see that but since he took no direction in his own life someone needed to take charge.

And was it just me or did they say son of b*tch like a ton of times?

I only heard it once, when Dil wet the bed.

And the thought of Terry Bradshaw taking Viagra to get his hydraulics or whatever going...yeah...that is going to cause the nightmares.

I thought that was hysterical, in fact TB cracked me up the entire time. I loved how he tricked Gil into admitting he broke the bay window during the quiz show.

The Monopoly scene was great for two reasons, 1 - it was ruthless ad everyone was sniping at each other, that's the way Monopoly is supposed to be played 2 - I used to hide money, under the board all the time. It gives your opponents a false sense of security.

[Penny Century]

I'm in with those who are wondering what was so deadly unlikeable about Katherine. The fact that the dialog included several other characters stating how much they didn't like Katherine was to me a sign that even the writers didn't quite believe it.

The real asshole here was Dil, definitely. What kind of SOB not only leaves his SO in the woods with a bear, but dumps that SO outside a restaurant filled with his family members? Leaving her to go back to his parents' house to pack her things and leave alone? Seriously, how fucked up is that? Add in the incredibly mean-spirited moment when Dil and April, right after their swaydoe-adorable river-rock-promise-ring moment, yuk it up about how much the bear must have hated the low-carb food in Katherine's backpack, and you have a perfect candidate for a public dumping in the Stratosphere tower.

The movie itself did have its moments. The sibling rivalry was realistic, especially the Monopoly game as someone else has pointed out. Dil really should have known better than to rely on his own memory of "family trivia," too. NB and Terry Bradshaw both were a riot. I wish CC had had more funny lines and moments -- or just more lines and moments, period.

But the moral seems, once again, to be, "Why be with a woman who challenges you when you can be with one who idolizes you?" Thank you, next please.

[Morrigan]

Originally Posted by Penny Century

But the moral seems, once again, to be, "Why be with a woman who challenges you when you can be with one who idolizes you?" Thank you, next please.

Or, my personal favorite, thank the woman that gave you the confidence to succeed by telling her she gave you the confidence to dump her.

I agree on not buying it, I found it totally odd when Gil tells April that he didn’t like Katherine.

[jujube1013]

yes, why do they insist on putting CC in fugly outfits, none of them suited her, but they showed a heck of a lot of cleavage.

and why would these people dislike Katherine. they are all over-achievers. heck even dil went to law school and graduated so he had to be driven at some point.gil is a congressman. and Katherine was really nice to all of the family, and was the only one who wanted to talk about lil's child. i really don't get why "they didn't like her"

[Penny Century]

Originally Posted by jujube1013

Katherine was really nice to all of the family, and was the only one who wanted to talk about lil's child. i really don't get why "they didn't like her"

In the end, the Gilberts came off as just another closed society rejecting someone who wasn't "one of us," especially with the deck stacked as it was in April's favor (hometown girl! poor, plucky orphan! virtual adopted daughter! blandly "nice," at least to your face! would rather jog than work! apparently!).

Which makes me envision a spinoff series devoted to Katherine and her search for true love, professional fulfillment, and a really good day spa.

[Freakface]

Originally Posted by Penny Century

Which makes me envision a spinoff series devoted to Katherine and her search for true love, professional fulfillment, and a really good day spa.

Actually, I could see that as a series... and I will volunteer my services as her masseur on the show...

[Angela]

Like many of you, I hated the way Katherine was treated, so much that I really couldn't enjoy the movie. But this was, IMO, the most professional of CC's major movies of late, and I'm glad she got the part. Hopefully it will lead to bigger and better things.

(and there was a YOOOOGE part of me that loved seeing Xander and Cordy together. Heh.)

[cherelli]

The way Katherine ad Dil turned out explained why I wondered why he was miscast. When I first saw the promo, I felt that CC's presence was to strong for this guy. So, that's why Dil and April were a match (Melody Wilkes and Ashley versus Scarlett). I would have never expected Katherine to be attracted to Dil. So, I was mad at the end. It was crummy how he broke up with Katherine, with the family and April inside. Yuk!

[Shannon]

i only watch this movie because of Nick & CC and i hate the way Dil treated Katherine. If i was her i would had bitchslap his ass!

[Morrigan]

Originally Posted by cherelli

I would have never expected Katherine to be attracted to Dil.

Actually I thought they made that perfectly clear and it made sense to me. Katherine's profession was all about finding potential in companies, taking them over and making them viable. Sadly, that's exactly what she did with Dil, she found a "diamond in the rough", took control of his non-directional life, and made him viable for another woman.

[cherelli]

Originally Posted by Morrigan

Actually I thought they made that perfectly clear and it made sense to me. Katherine's profession was all about finding potential in companies, taking them over and making them viable. Sadly, that's exactly what she did with Dil, she found a "diamond in the rough", took control of his non-directional life, and made him viable for another woman.

Yes, they did make it clear. Still didn't keep me from bitching about it. It also explained the choice of actor.

[Penny Century]

Originally Posted by cherelli

The way Katherine ad Dil turned out explained why I wondered why he was miscast. When I first saw the promo, I felt that CC's presence was to strong for this guy. So, that's why Dil and April were a match (Melody Wilkes and Ashley versus Scarlett).

I'd agree with that. I also think it's part of an unfortunate Willow Rosenburg syndrome, in which the "perfect girl" is a passive-aggressive mope who doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to pursue her dream guy/girl but will happily undermine the bolder, brighter girl who does. The biggest part of the Willow's strategy always seems to be waiting for everyone to notice how precious and special and unique she is -- and scripts that feature the Willow are always stacked so that eventually everyone does. Yeah, there's a role model.