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Old 04-27-2004, 09:54 PM   #31
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BTW, does anyone know if these are all of the pics? Because in the first link, the guy who scanned the pics said something about 2 pictures missing from a two page spread.
Not two, ten. There are ten pages, says the guy selling it on EBay. Plus an interview.
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:54 PM   #32
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WOW. She is one sexy mamacita. This settles it. Charisma Carpenter is a genetic miracle. I also thought the pics were very sexy, yet tastefully done.
WORD Carolina! I'm a dancer and I've gotta say that she's got one of the best bodies I've seen in a looooong time and I've seen some amazing bodies male & female.

Charisma is just the total package. Beauty, brains, wit, presence, poise & grace. Plus the girl can act her ass off.


Go 'head Charisma.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:03 PM   #33
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Well, someone has to say it.......WHERE ARE THE ONES THAT CALL CHARISMA FAT, HUH?

Take that Joss!
If that was one of her season for doing it, she shut their mouths with out no chance of open them


GO CHARISMA

10 pages? I have people here looking like crazy (men are drooling and women admiring) with only this and there are more?

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Old 04-27-2004, 10:08 PM   #34
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Charisma has an incredible body. A genetic freak. I still feel doing these pics were unneccessary for a woman of her class. She was sexier in FHM and those type of magazines when there was a sense of mystery. If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check. Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials. She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:10 PM   #35
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I'm personally disappointed...Yes she is beautiful, but she didn't have to expose herself on Playboy.I think FHM would have been the better choice.I mean look at AA.She went from geeky Fred to sex pot Amy in one single picture.
I guess what you think really depends on how you perceive it. You see it as exposure. I can imagine that Charisma saw it as a celebration of her body...

Obviously, I think its possible to be sexy with your clothes on as well as off, but as many have said, she had more control over what was printed with Playboy, and frankly, I found these to be more esoterically appealing than some of her past photos where she didn't have control over the setting.

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Charisma has an incredible body. A genetic freak. I still feel doing these pics were unneccessary for a woman of her class. She was sexier in FHM and those type of magazines when there was a sense of mystery. If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check. Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials. She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass.
So only unclassy women take their clothes off and pose nude?

She was sexier in FHM and those type of magazines when there was a sense of mystery.

Opinion.

If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check.

If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check. Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials. She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass

I doubt she did this because she thought it would give her career a boost. And if she's viewed differently, it will be by a narrow contingent that a) finds something wrong with a naked woman and b) already thinks of women as tits, ass, and another pretty face to begin with.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:13 PM   #36
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She already did FHM and Maxim, a few times. And, from what I hear, didn't have the best of experiences with either. At least on Playboy she got control over which pictures would be used, how they were shot and how much of herself she wanted to expose.
Plus, FHM and Maxim don't have near the Q score that Playboy does. Playboy, for better or worse, is an institution. It would be like the difference between appearing on Jimmy Kimmell and appearing on Letterman.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:20 PM   #37
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Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials. She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass.
Yep Charlieze Theron and Sharon Stone both suffered major blows to their careers. Oh and that other no name actress, Drew something or other...

Oh and those 6 actresses that are taking it off for that other mag (can't remember which, it was covered on ET) will probably be out of work soon. I mean who is this Andrea De Meteo chick anyway?
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If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check. Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials.
Yeah, look at that nobody Charlize Theron. Oh, and that has-been Drew Barrymore. And can't forget about Carmen Electra. Or Pam Grier. Or Sherilynn Fenn. Or Elle Macpherson. Or Bernadette Peters. Or Cindy Crawford. Or Kim Basinger. Or Tia Carrere. Or Laura Linney. Or- I'm sorry, what were you saying?

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She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass.
As opposed to before when she was viewed for her t&a? Please. People are gonna see what they wanna see no matter if her clothes are on or off.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:23 PM   #39
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Obviously, I think its possible to be sexy with your clothes on as well as off, but as many have said, she had more control over what was printed with Playboy, and frankly, I found these to be more esoterically appealing than some of her past photos where she didn't have control over the setting.
The thing that strikes me is the lack of self-conscious mythmaking. It isn't an audition. It's not Charisma playing a role or presenting herself as some sort of female archetype, or a series of same. It's not her "trying" to be sexy. It's just a pretty -- okay, gorgeous -- woman posing with very little to wear, and apparently having a great time doing it. It really seems much more like a look at the real CC (and not just the real CC's assets) than the stagy, corny, aggressively "foxy" FHM/Maxim style will allow.
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I'm a female, who loves males, but i have to admit, those pictures were fabulous. But unlike the men out there, heh, i was paying more attention to her butt.

She has the cutest butt, lol. I'm SO jealous.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:26 PM   #41
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And if she's viewed differently, it will be by a narrow contingent that a) finds something wrong with a naked woman and b) already thinks of women as tits, ass, and another pretty face to begin with.
Sadly, there are evidently many women that fall into that category. I'm not sure if it's self-loathing, or something else.

As far as the whole generic "FHM" was classy, but this was not "argument", I think that's just about one of the more disappointing (but perhaps not unexpected) opinions put forth. The only difference is a nipple - or rather, two of them. Why are some people so affected by the sight of actual nipples? As others have already pointed out, a lot of the MAXIM and FHM shots are extremely suggestive and sexual, much more so than Charisma's photos here, but somehow it makes sense that if you pose provocatively but don't expose your nipples that it's "classy"? That's nonsense, in my opinion, but reflective I suppose of American arbitrary decency standards.

And I'm not sure what anyone here has to be "disappointed" about - it's not your body, and not your choice. If you believe fundamentally that a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body, including posing nude, then why are you disappointed? Because she didn't make the same choice you might have made? Chrissy has indicated clearly that Charisma was extremely happy with the pictures, and presumably freely made the decision to pose, so let it be.

FWIW, I think Charisma has more class naked than most people do covered up with parkas. Class isn't just about your body - in fact, it has little do with your body. It's about how you conduct yourself and how you present yourself to other people, not to mention how you treat other people and deal with everyday life.

And sorry to get so snippy, but I find it almost offensive that people are taking not-so-subtle jabs at a woman for making a choice about her own body.

ETA: In fact, I find it almost as offensive as comments expressing "disappointment" that she didn't "go all the way", or treat the readers to shots below the belt, etc. These were the pictures she approved. This was what she wanted to show. She's not responsible for what people take from this beyond being willing to do the pictorial in the first place for her own reasons.
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Yeah, look at that nobody Charlize Theron. Oh, and that has-been Drew Barrymore. And can't forget about Carmen Electra. Or Pam Grier. Or Sherilynn Fenn. Or Elle Macpherson. Or Bernadette Peters. Or Cindy Crawford. Or Kim Basinger. Or Tia Carrere. Or Laura Linney. Or- I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Laura Linney posed for Playboy? Seriously? Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just always thought she was a VERY serious actress and not really the type to pose.

**This statement was in no way meant to be a slam to any actress who poses for Playboy; but seriously, Laura Linney doesn't seem the type. I could very well be wrong.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:29 PM   #43
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Charisma has an incredible body. A genetic freak. I still feel doing these pics were unneccessary for a woman of her class. She was sexier in FHM and those type of magazines when there was a sense of mystery. If she is expecting her career to take off because of these pics she could be in for a reality check. Very few women become big from Playboy pictorials. She will probably be viewed differently. Just tits and ass.
Dude...we've gone through the list so many times.

Drew Barrymore, Charlize Theron, Farrah Fawcett, Jane Seymour, Kim Bassinger, Nancy Sinatra, Bo Derek, Robin Givens, Cindy Crawford, Stephanie Seymour, Shannon Doherty, Daryl Hannah, Tia Carrere, Kristy Swanson, Deedee Pheiffer...I don't think any of these women are known as "tits and ass". They're all respected in their own careers, unless I'm mistaken.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:30 PM   #44
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Beautiful!

A woman who is going to be as choosy about her next project as we are led to believe that Charisma is is not going to pose nude simply for a career boost. I was always under the impression that she did this just because she wanted to. She has a great body and I say more power to her!
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I'm not a fan of the photos but applause to her for doing them.
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