12-14-2005, 09:23 PM | #31 | |
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12-14-2005, 09:33 PM | #32 | |
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12-14-2005, 09:40 PM | #33 |
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I liked the commentary Minear did for the AtS DVDs.
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12-14-2005, 09:42 PM | #34 | |
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12-14-2005, 10:29 PM | #35 |
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Ahh, reading an interview with Minear that mentions Cordy and Charisma plus manages to both piss people off and draw praise. Takes me back, that does. Good times, good times.
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12-14-2005, 10:50 PM | #36 | |
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Pretty scary that the majority of us are over AtS and all that crap yet we can still debate the moral ethics of Fury, Minear, and the AtS crew.
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12-15-2005, 12:47 AM | #37 | |
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12-15-2005, 01:25 AM | #38 | |
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12-15-2005, 03:29 AM | #39 |
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Hm, I don't get the hate for Tim Minear either. I have to agree that he had a fantastic grip on Angels character, just like I consider David Greenwalt the best Cordelia writer. I think between them they managed to do a pretty good job with AtS. IMHO Angel started to go down when they both left the show. Together they wrote most of my fav Angel episodes ever.
... and I totally adore Wonderfalls. It's a shame that the show never got a full season. |
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12-15-2005, 08:37 AM | #41 |
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The one thing that I noticed about Minear's episodes, is that it seemed liked he didn't see Cordelia as anything more than comedy relief. Take the Pylean saga for example;
Over the Rainbow by Mere Smith - The gang is searching frantically on how to save Cordelia, Cordelia has to put up with all sorts of crap from the Pyleans Through the Looking Glass by Tim Minear - the debut of the Groosalugg, Cordelia wants to take all the jewels with her when they escape There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb by David Greenwalt - the only finale where Cordy kills the bad guy |
12-15-2005, 08:50 AM | #42 |
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I don't have Minear "hate". I just think he's yet another example of an ME writer who let online fandom get to his head and allowed his online minions to swell his ego to proportions that aren't justifiable by any evidence available to me. I think his ME writing was inconsistent - he did write well for male characters, but was either incapable or unwilling to write meaningful intelligent dialogue for female characters who didn't fall into the category of a madonna or a whore.
It's entirely possible that his writing on subsequent shows (like "Wonderfalls") was an improvement, and that he's better now than he was then - but I won't watch him on principle, because I do think he was a significant part of the ME group-think cabal that felt they had to tear down the Cordelia character. That, and his obvious suck-up-iness to certain Bangels online. But I don't have to hate someone in order to have no interest in ever watching their work again. ETA: That, and listening to his online Succubus interview at the end of Season 4, which gave me the distinct impression that he was probably a bit of a jerk. His constant references to "a pregnant woman" as an excuse for certain storylines grated mightily.
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12-15-2005, 10:08 AM | #43 |
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(And seriously. You have to wonder about a guy who's that into hookers and rape. I really feel I cannot overstate this. Wasn't it Little Joe himself who mentioned rage issues...?)
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12-15-2005, 11:57 AM | #44 |
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Minear sucks. They all suck. Except for Greenwalt.
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Or am I being an asshat by querying into a writer's life that we tend to say no to on an actor's? "cause I'm curious because there were elements of Timmah!'s writing that I found intriging but like it's been said, his writing for anyone who wasn't Angel or Darla underwhelmed on a consistant basis.
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