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Old 01-22-2004, 07:40 AM   #61
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Good interview, but I hope she decides make more appearances on the show. ME have obviously come to their senses; why can't she?

Also, I think she's completely wrong about the Cordy/Connor storyline. It was daring, dark, and shocking, and resonated wonderfully with the whole subtext of abuse and incest that's been running through the show from the beginning. I thought that it was a brilliant twist that saw Cordelia, who was so sickened by what Bethany's father had done to her back in Untouched, end up doing what she did to Connor.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:48 AM   #62
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Thanks again fielding for your refreshing and different viewpoint. You've given me the best chuckle yet of the day. But I'm not taking the bait. Do you actually believe any of your stuff, or do you just enjoy stirring us up?
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:56 AM   #63
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I thought that was Jasmine who needed Connor to create a vessel...
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:03 AM   #64
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Also, I think she's completely wrong about the Cordy/Connor storyline.
Yeah, but Charisma is a lot smarter than you are.
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:09 AM   #65
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Yeah, but Charisma is a lot smarter than you are.
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:18 AM   #66
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Thanks again fielding for your refreshing and different viewpoint. You've given me the best chuckle yet of the day. But I'm not taking the bait. Do you actually believe any of your stuff, or do you just enjoy stirring us up?
Of course I believe it. What, do you deny that abuse has been a major motif in Angel from the beginning?
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Old 01-22-2004, 08:24 AM   #67
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as far as ME coming to their senses.....IMO they are rowing with one oar......upstream.....
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Old 01-22-2004, 11:40 AM   #68
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Good interview, but I hope she decides make more appearances on the show. ME have obviously come to their senses; why can't she?
Because returning as a recurring character as a way of accomodating her new mother status and possibly freeing her up to look for Half Hours didn't come up during her exit NON-interview with ME.

I've said it before: Even David "don't you change a fucking word" Mamet - a REAL WRITER TO A GENERATION OF AMERICAN ACTORS - keeps good talent handy for future projects (WH Macy, Felicity Huffman, et.al) . He has much more respect for talent, apparently, than "I pink-slipped you in People" Joss-Be-Gone W. Angel S6 will be played by his troupe of specially trained Harbor Seals, if JW has his way.

As for Charisma Carpenter, she just bought Crissy over at CC.com Sex in the City S3, so Chrissy can get up to speed on what to expect next from her next year. Charisma's new first-name basis producer? It isn't Joss. It's Darren. Wanna bet?

That's why.

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Old 01-24-2004, 01:57 AM   #69
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Yeah, but Charisma is a lot smarter than you are.
No, she's not.

But she is a lot prettier.
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Old 01-24-2004, 02:26 AM   #70
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No, she's not.

But she is a lot prettier.
We could always take a vote.

What say you? Poll time?

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Old 01-24-2004, 03:23 AM   #71
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Better watch out feilding. She's quoting Aragorn.
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:36 AM   #72
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Awwww, poor Fielding. I'm sure you're pretty on the inside.

Aside from that, consider this a vote for Charisma.
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:53 AM   #73
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Also, I think she's completely wrong about the Cordy/Connor storyline. It was daring, dark, and shocking, and resonated wonderfully with the whole subtext of abuse and incest that's been running through the show from the beginning. I thought that it was a brilliant twist that saw Cordelia, who was so sickened by what Bethany's father had done to her back in Untouched, end up doing what she did to Connor.
Maybe, conceivably, that argument would hold some water. If, you know, the story had spent a second or two showing us how Cordelia feels about 'what she did to Connor' (your phrase, not mine - as far as I'm concerned, she was raped). As it is, the storyline incorporated no insight whatsoever into her character, and I would think that to 'resonate', a storyline has to actually involve who the characters are.
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Old 01-24-2004, 03:15 PM   #74
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I'll add my vote for Charisma - prettier and smarter, by far.
And classier, too.

And, I have to add, I've never found sexual abuse, incestuous or otherwise, to be entertaining. However, if a storyline would truly deal with the horrificness of it and do the appropriate follow-through, I'm not opposed to the theme being explored. As seen on AtS, any abuse is there strictly for the shock value. Women quickly rebound as though nothing happened; Connor only suffered, because they wanted to show Angel's angst and provide a convincing reason for him to accept W&H's offer. (and, personally, I think they were deliberately trying to trash the character of Cordy)
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Old 01-24-2004, 08:45 PM   #75
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Maybe, conceivably, that argument would hold some water. If, you know, the story had spent a second or two showing us how Cordelia feels about 'what she did to Connor' (your phrase, not mine - as far as I'm concerned, she was raped). As it is, the storyline incorporated no insight whatsoever into her character, and I would think that to 'resonate', a storyline has to actually involve who the characters are.
Well, it's my belief that their original intention for Season 5 was to show Cordelia's reaction to everything that the Jasmine/Cordelia hybrid did (because I don't think her personality was ever completely suppressed by Jasmine's).
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