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Posting after myself, but after reading some commentary elsewhere on the web, three more Snape-related thoughts:
(1) I didn't make this connection myself, but it was effin' brilliant of JK to re-show the Snape memory at Hogwarts in context - now we can understand that "Snape's Worst Memory" was not actually being humiliated by James/Sirius, but his worst memory is that he called Lily a mudblood and as a result she ended the friendship between them forever. (2) I think the most tragic part of Snape's memories was the stricken look on his face when Dumbledore made the comment about "sorting too soon" - he was obviously thinking of how differently his relationship with Lily might have been if he were sorted into Gryffindor and not Slytherin. (3) I gather that his last "look at me" request was his desire to see Lily's eyes one more time before he died. Of course, that in and of itself is just going to inflame the creative juices of any and all Harry/Snape shippers
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The part where Dumbledore saw Snapes Patronus sail out the window was the most tragic aspect for me.
From the tip of his wand burst the silver doe: She landed on the office floor, bounded once across the office, and soared out of the window. Dumbledore watched her fly away, and as her silvery glow faded he turned back to Snape, and his eyes were full of tears. "After all this time?" "Always," said Snape. So the fact that Tonks' Patronus changed form due to severe emotional stress wasn't just a one off in HPB after all. Tissues people! I need more tissues! |
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Overall I thought this was a really satisfying end to the series. Some nits; and maybe it's me, but didn't JKR say something about Ginny kicking ass and taking names in DH? Helena Bonham Carter got sold a bill of goods too, for that matter.
Also, just 'cause this stood up and slapped me: Hermione caused her parents to think they were other people, forget Hermione existed, and sent them off to Australia, then a couple of chapters later, she says she's never performed a memory charm? And where did this trace thing come from on underage wizards, when in HBP, Dumbledore clearly said the Ministry could only tell magic had been done, not who did it. I really had no problem with Ron taking off, especially when it was clear the locket affected him more than the others (as things will; much affected Harry more than anyone else, for instance), and he did want to return immediately, so there's the Ron we all know. What I truly didn't get was where this jealousy of Harry in regard to the fair Hermione came from? When did Ron ever think Harry was hot for Hermione? As for Ron in the Epilogue, yes, being as both his wife and Ginny's husband had married purebloods, I'd say he was joking. (Speaking of, I thought the Epilogue was fine. Obviously written 17 years ago, but fine.) I thought it was a nice touch to have every Horcrux destroyed by a different person. (Even though I never was and still am not a fan of HorcruxHarry.) Made it all seem like a community event, so to speak. When it's all said and done, Snape was a prat. A courageous prat, perhaps, but a prat nevertheless. I was and am still skeeved about him and Lily, requited or no, never more so than when he died looking into Harry's eyes. That all said, I agree with Platy. There should have been more time devoted to Snape. His entire backstory shouldn't have been a series of disconnected memories. Show, don't tell. I assume it was Lucius JKR spared in the end. It's not a bad call if it was. Slimy, reprehensible people don't always get their due IRL either. (So who were the two added to the role call of the dead? Fred and Tonks would be my guess.) I too could use a crash course in the whole wand/blood/double bonding connection and why it meant Harry could survive the AK again, if someone's up to it. Use small words and lots of illustrations wherever possible, 'kay? Thanks. And since it's mandatory, yeah, loved BadAss Neville and BitchKiller Molly. Neville was less of a surprise than Molly, and yet, there had to be some reason everyone quailed in her presence. Now we know. Albus Severus? Harry and Ginny so need to have their asses kicked for that one.
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Joke or not, I still didn't like it. Writing a kid off because of where he or she came from is something that they were fighting against. Having that lesson remain unlearned after seven books is a little disappointing.
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I think Dean Thomas might have received a reprieve - he was sort of there for no real reason in a couple of scenes. Perhaps he was supposed to die at the Malfoys, but Rowling changed her mind and decided not to do it. As far as additions to the role call of the dead, Fred might be one, but I just knew in my heart of hearts that at least one Weasley was going to have to die, and having it be one of the twins packs the most punch outside of it being Ron. (The most punch for Harry, anyway - and he needed those punches in order to be able, I think, to make his penultimate sacrifice, because he just couldn't abide anyone else he cared about dying instead of him). So I'm going to say Fred was always planned, but I'm really unsure of how Colin Creevey ended up as one of the random dead from out of nowhere. That one REALLY seemed gratuitous. And I have to wonder about Crabbe as well. Quote:
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As far as Crabbe, well, she was going to have to kill a Slytherin wasn't she? Apparently Draco needed to stick around to complete the epilogue, so there ya go. I've read that people were disappointed that JKR demonized Slytherin House in the final book. Granted the Slytherins that we knew weren't running at lightening speed to fight against Voldemort, but then again it was fairly well established that the majority of those kids had Death Eaters for parents. Why would they fight along side the others? If anything, I thought it was very telling that Balding!Draco acknowledged Harry on the platform during the epilogue, and that Harry told Albus that there was nothing to be ashamed of if he were to be placed into Slytherin. Obviously the houses as well as the wizarding world are more united by that point. |
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I was looking for promotion of the Lily/Hugo 'ship, with some mysterious channeling of Harry's and Hermione's souls through their children in there somewhere.
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Well, all right. Better than thinking JKR was smacking shippers over the head for the sake of it, I guess.
No, the trace was mentioned before Voldie's boys and girls took over the MoM.
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It's quite possible that they figured out a way to or had narrowed the trace down though, in order to specifically seperate Harry from the rest.
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Normally, I'd just go with my standard stolen from the Simpsons line: "A wizard did it". But I guess when it comes to these books, that's at the root of your problem. So I just don't know. The only other option that comes to mind is the Imperio curse, and I just don't see any way that Hermione would do that to her parents. This may have just been a screw-up.
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So no matter where Harry goes until he turns 17, and provided that the Ministry is not otherwise notified that he is in close proximity to other wizards (and I suspect that the Ministry may have been notified whenever Harry was visiting the Burrow, in past years), and also provided that wherever he is at any given moment doesn't have protective charms around it blocking the alert from going off (as I suspect the Burrow did have this time round), I think if either he or anyone close enough to him does magic, the alert will go off. And since Voldemort already had spies in the Ministry even before he formally took over, there certainly had to be at least one or two who were assigned Potter-Watch. That's my best explanation.
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