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Old 04-27-2004, 10:37 PM   #46
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Sadly, there are evidently many women that fall into that category. I'm not sure if it's self-loathing, or something else.

As far as the whole generic "FHM" was classy, but this was not "argument", I think that's just about one of the more disappointing (but perhaps not unexpected) opinions put forth. The only difference is a nipple - or rather, two of them. Why are some people so affected by the sight of actual nipples? As others have already pointed out, a lot of the MAXIM and FHM shots are extremely suggestive and sexual, much more so than Charisma's photos here, but somehow it makes sense that if you pose provocatively but don't expose your nipples that it's "classy"? That's nonsense, in my opinion, but reflective I suppose of American arbitrary decency standards.

And I'm not sure what anyone here has to be "disappointed" about - it's not your body, and not your choice. If you believe fundamentally that a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body, including posing nude, then why are you disappointed? Because she didn't make the same choice you might have made? Chrissy has indicated clearly that Charisma was extremely happy with the pictures, and presumably freely made the decision to pose, so let it be.

FWIW, I think Charisma has more class naked than most people do covered up with parkas. Class isn't just about your body - in fact, it has little do with your body. It's about how you conduct yourself and how you present yourself to other people, not to mention how you treat other people and deal with everyday life.

And sorry to get so snippy, but I find it almost offensive that people are taking not-so-subtle jabs at a woman for making a choice about her own body.

ETA: In fact, I find it almost as offensive as comments expressing "disappointment" that she didn't "go all the way", or treat the readers to shots below the belt, etc. These were the pictures she approved. This was what she wanted to show. She's not responsible for what people take from this beyond being willing to do the pictorial in the first place for her own reasons.

Wordy, McFarkin' WORD. This is exactly what I've been trying to say to people all day who say they're "disappointed" with her decision. I'm going to stop trying to say it and just quote you.

Now. I'm going to take one last look at the Divine Queen C and then it's TV with my cats.

P.S. Hey, Lara! List Girl. You rocketh.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:39 PM   #47
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P.S. Hey, Lara! List Girl. You rocketh.
*sniffle* Dude...I had a list, too. I just spent more time on the playboy site making sure I got enough to drill a point.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:50 PM   #48
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*sniffle* Dude...I had a list, too. I just spent more time on the playboy site making sure I got enough to drill a point.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:55 PM   #49
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Pssh. You're looking at naked pictures, I'm just browsing covers. Who's dirty now?
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:00 PM   #50
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*sniffle* Dude...I had a list, too. I just spent more time on the playboy site making sure I got enough to drill a point.
Ha! I didn't need to go to Playboy to get my list, ya perverted jerk!
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:02 PM   #51
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Ha! I didn't need to go to Playboy to get my list, ya perverted jerk!
Because you already had it memorized from past viewings, wench!
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:03 PM   #52
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if i was on a show where they used me for either comic relief or as "the hot chick" and then gained weight during a much wanted pregnancy, and was made to feel unattractive and was replaced by younger "hotter" chicks, but after a year i looked like this and playboy came to me and asked me to do it HELL YEAH!!!!!
she has shown jw that she doesn't need him, by getting many guest spots, starring in a tv movie(right off), and now landing a lead role in a sit-com, now it's time to show them that yeah, they do need her b/c NO ONE they have on the show now compares to that.

she looks great and if she's happy with them and Damien is happy with them and she felt happy and sexy during the shoot(which it looks like was happening) then it's no one else's business what she does.
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:06 PM   #53
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Ha! I didn't need to go to Playboy to get my list, ya perverted jerk!
Wait...how am I a jerk?

Besides, if I didn't go there, I wouldn't be able to name any of them. They're all tits and ass, anyway.

...Joking?

*dodges rotten vegetables*
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:14 PM   #54
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Because you already had it memorized from past viewings, wench!
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Besides, if I didn't go there, I wouldn't be able to name any of them. They're all tits and ass, anyway.
Damn them for being women! Damn them all to hell!
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:19 PM   #55
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Dimitri didn't go to playboy to *get* the list, that was just his excuse for spending so much time on the site. It was research! Research I tell ya!

Pretty much what Platy said.

I hope this doesn't come off sounding bad it's not my intention to judge, condemn or in anyway criticize anyone in this post but my impression is that those that are "disappointed" are so b/c this goes against the image they built up in their mind of CC. Since none of us really know her, just a fraction of her, from what we see/hear we build up this idea of what she's like and for some people she's not the type to pose nude or in Playboy. I also think that many of us have preconceived notions of skin mags, playmates, etc.

Is this something I would do? No, but it's not because I think it's a bad thing or would in some way lower me in peoples estimations or because dirty old men would use my image for their own enjoyment. Instead it would be b/c I don't have the guts to put myself out there like that, to have people judge me on my physical attributes let alone my reasons for doing it; that alone raises CC in my estimation.

Besides it’s not like anyone would actually pay me to take my clothes off anyway
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:26 PM   #57
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Damn them for being women! Damn them all to hell!
Dude, don't damn them. Tits are good. Really good.

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Dimitri didn't go to playboy to *get* the list, that was just his excuse for spending so much time on the site. It was research! Research I tell ya!
Dude, Playboy doesn't have anything good at the site. It's all "Pay me and you can see me naked!" crap. If I wanted porn, I'd go to a few sites that I already visited today for my daily fill.
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I'll give you ten dollars?
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Besides it’s not like anyone would actually pay me to take my clothes off anyway
Yoo hoo, I got twenty with yer name on it...

Hell, if Charisma wants to take her clothes off in Times Square on New Years Eve atop of the big ball- who the hell are we to say no? It's HER body. It's called free will.
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Twenty-five!
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Pssh. You're looking at naked pictures, I'm just browsing covers. Who's dirty now?
You're the one drilling a point.

I used to drill all the time. Now I don't drill nearly so far or so often. For I am Lothar of the Hill People!
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