interesting blog

tojoson · 04-11-2007, 11:01 PM

I never thought in these terms, but it makes sense

http://seraphcelene.livejournal.com/122574.html

nice analysis

Bert · 04-13-2007, 05:03 PM

I think most of us had realised that the Buffy characters seemed wholly adolescent when compared to the Angel characters, but it was a thoughtfully written piece and it raised some points that I'd never considered or noticed before.

Especially the whole family vs lineage point. Buffy always seemed to be fighting for the present, whereas Angel always seemed to be fighting for the future, this is especially evident in the first two seasons when there was no season long arc for the Big Bad. (In fact the only character that could be seen as a Big Bad through the eyes of BtVS was Holtz, and even he had... layers.)

One person neglected from the whole mother-figures-doomed-in-Jossverse was Jenny Calendar. Even before, Joyce, Jenny was the obvious candidate for mother figure to the Scoobies. Joyce didn't really step up to the role in my eyes until Season 3.

Overall, it was nice to read some fresh analysis of the two series. After all this time, it's hard to find an insightful, meaningful observation that hasn't been spouted out by fifteen hundred other fans before.

A nice read.

Dusted · 04-24-2007, 03:15 PM

I disagree that Holtz was the first big bad. Looking back, Darla framed many of the storylines for Angel and although she wasn't really a threat as a human, her intention was to mess with Angel's head (which worked) and ultimately Darla caused the demise of Angel Investigations and his relationships with his friends.
Season One was definately about setting up relationships and characters so the blogger has a valid point there because even in the first season of Buffy, the threat of the Master was apparent in episodes throughout.
Going back to Angel, the ultimate Angel vs. Scary was Wolfram and hart. A lot of the storylines came from them and Lindsay was a big feature...even returning in season 5...and then Angel went to work for them...fool!
Thanks for posting the link.

Luna · 04-27-2007, 05:57 AM

I´d say when Wolfram & Hart was the Big Bad, Angel didn´t fight it anymore in season 5 but he worked for it. So the whole sense of the mission was gone.

04-11-2007, 11:01 PM	#1
tojoson Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: st. clair shores, michigan usa Posts: 4,450	interesting blog I never thought in these terms, but it makes sense http://seraphcelene.livejournal.com/122574.html nice analysis __________________ don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened

04-13-2007, 05:03 PM	#2
Bert The Evil Potato Chip Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,671	I think most of us had realised that the Buffy characters seemed wholly adolescent when compared to the Angel characters, but it was a thoughtfully written piece and it raised some points that I'd never considered or noticed before. Especially the whole family vs lineage point. Buffy always seemed to be fighting for the present, whereas Angel always seemed to be fighting for the future, this is especially evident in the first two seasons when there was no season long arc for the Big Bad. (In fact the only character that could be seen as a Big Bad through the eyes of BtVS was Holtz, and even he had... layers.) One person neglected from the whole mother-figures-doomed-in-Jossverse was Jenny Calendar. Even before, Joyce, Jenny was the obvious candidate for mother figure to the Scoobies. Joyce didn't really step up to the role in my eyes until Season 3. Overall, it was nice to read some fresh analysis of the two series. After all this time, it's hard to find an insightful, meaningful observation that hasn't been spouted out by fifteen hundred other fans before. A nice read. __________________ Bert - lactating threads to death. At Weekends My Name Is Ernie

04-24-2007, 03:15 PM	#3
Dusted just... smile Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: in a land full of jelly Posts: 1,999	I disagree that Holtz was the first big bad. Looking back, Darla framed many of the storylines for Angel and although she wasn't really a threat as a human, her intention was to mess with Angel's head (which worked) and ultimately Darla caused the demise of Angel Investigations and his relationships with his friends. Season One was definately about setting up relationships and characters so the blogger has a valid point there because even in the first season of Buffy, the threat of the Master was apparent in episodes throughout. Going back to Angel, the ultimate Angel vs. Scary was Wolfram and hart. A lot of the storylines came from them and Lindsay was a big feature...even returning in season 5...and then Angel went to work for them...fool! Thanks for posting the link. __________________ Been there done that-ANGEL And i thought you never had sex-CORDY There you are, a bottle of archers aqua i do try not to abbreviate- honest

04-27-2007, 05:57 AM	#4
Luna The heart never dies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 542	I´d say when Wolfram & Hart was the Big Bad, Angel didn´t fight it anymore in season 5 but he worked for it. So the whole sense of the mission was gone. __________________ Nothing on earth stays forever, but none of your deeds were in vain, deep in our hearts you will live again, you´re gone to the home of the brave.

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