AtS on TNT Discussion Thread

[Angelia]

Originally posted by Dannyblue
I can't believe they skipped "Billy". What? Why?

I was half way through watching 'Offspring' when I realized this. I was pretty sure they had aired 'Fredless' the day before and thought maybe I'd missed a day without realizing it. Then for a few seconds I was trying to remember if 'Billy' came before or after 'Offspring' but then I remembered it happened before Darla showed up preggers.

Maybe they didn't show it because they thought it was too violent. I know they showed it the last time they went through S3 so it doesn't really make sense that they wouldn't show it this time. Maybe they got complaints or something. I'm hoping it was a mistake and they'll show it next time around.

[Dannyblue]

When you think about it, a show considered too violent to be shown before 9 pm on the WB (and would probably be shown at 10 pm on another network) is now showing at 5 in the afternoon. For whatever reason, that always strikes me as kind of funny. I mean, remember the uproar from some parents when season 6 of Buffy was airing at 8, which some considered too early for all that sex and violence.

I thought "Billy" was brilliant, but I know people who were highly offended by the things he and Wesley said. Which was kind of the point. It was supposed to be disturbing, especially when you consider some men really think that way.

Oh, well. Let's hope they skipped it by mistake. (Although, since it was also skipped in the TV listings, that probably isn't likely.)

[samluvsharrison]

Originally Posted by Dannyblue

I thought "Billy" was brilliant, but I know people who were highly offended by the things he and Wesley said. Which was kind of the point. It was supposed to be disturbing, especially when you consider some men really think that way.

Agreed. "Billy" is one of my favorite episodes. It goes to dark places, but maintains a levity; as a viewer you get pushed and pulled every scene. So many people are given a chance to shine - Cordy, Lilah, Fred, Wesley...

Ugh. It's amazing.

[ImNotACryBuffy]

"Billy" is freaking amazing. I'm surprised of all the episodes they would skip that one. Hopefully, the next viewing it will be there.

[tojoson]

tnt starts running season 4, daily, next monday the 12th

that may be why they skipped billy, to make the new season start on a monday (of course, that was a bad epidose to skip)

[rousedower]

How dare they skip "Billy" for crappy S4. Although I like "Deep Down" and "Slouching..." and "Spin the Bottle" a little, but that's about it.

Ugh. S4 makes me physically ill. I can't believe that it turned out to be the beginning of the end for the series. Sorry, but I can't stress enough how much I hated it and how disappointed I am in it.

[LaLa247]

What happened with "Billy", exactly? Was there a sports game on or something?

Maybe they re-aired it later on that day/night?

[tojoson]

no they just jumped right over it.

the day that 'billy' shoulld have aired, they had 'offspring'' and then just continued on wuth the rest of the season

[QueenC]

OK... I can't help it... I really enjoy "tomorrow". But at the same time, it's making me angry all over again to watch the great C/A chemistry and the potential that was ultimately wasted.

But... my question is this. Since I don't really want to rewatch any of season 4 just to find the answer (and I can't remember!)..... how does Connor find out that Angel didn't kill Holtz. I'm sure we found out in Season 4, but since I haven't rewatched any of season 4 since it originally aired, I'm a little fuzzy. Any help?

Thanks!


Lori

[DamnSkippy]

From what I remember, Lori, Angel tells him that Justine did it and why and the look in Connor's eyes says he finally believes him. That's all there was. He never, as far as I know, confronted Justine about it.

[QueenC]

Thanks!

Lori

[tojoson]

to those who are not watching because it's season 4, and for those who are--a reminder

spin the bottle is on this monday

[samluvsharrison]

RE: Spin the Bottle

Okay. The bottle smashing thing. I've completely forgotten the consensus on that one. She smashed it because : a) She thought it was going crazy, and she was trying to save everyone b) She was Jasmine, and that spell could have had serious raminfications if it had worked c) The spell allowed Jasmine to be awakened, and then she slammed it for...some...reason

What was the deal?

[psychofilly]

Originally Posted by samluvsharrison

RE: Spin the Bottle

What was the deal?

My take on it, and it doesn't fit with your theory that you have maintained is that Cordy broke the bottle, because in that moment she (Cordy not Jasmine)remembered what was happening and knew that if the spell was completed, Jasmine would awaken. She smashed the bottle but it was too late.

However knowing that Cordy was *supposed to be* the evil one, when the season started, I think at the time of the episode she had been using the amnesia as a cover and if that storyline had been kept, we'd realize the spell was never supposed to "work" but it did in an unexpected way, so she smashed it because she realized it was disorienting her, and she needed to be in control lest she slip something she shouldn't.

[LaLa247]

Originally Posted by psychofilly

My take on it, and it doesn't fit with your theory that you have maintained is that Cordy broke the bottle, because in that moment she (Cordy not Jasmine)remembered what was happening and knew that if the spell was completed, Jasmine would awaken. She smashed the bottle but it was too late.

And it also fits in with the way she yelled "NO!" right before the smash.