07-25-2007, 10:18 AM | #61 |
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Yeah? I'm having the opposite experience. None of my usual hang outs (that all went nuts with HBP) seem to even care that DH is out beyond 'it was good' and 'Molly/Neville kick ass'.
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07-25-2007, 11:14 AM | #62 |
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I'm having the same problem, with the exception of F_W. And even skimming through 3500 links to capslock o' RAGE or "Dumbledore sucks!" or "JKR is a horrible writer" or...well, the usual is just too much work to be any fun.
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07-25-2007, 11:56 AM | #63 |
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Wow, this is pretty much the only place I've gone to for a HP discussion. I had no idea that there was such a bad reaction to the book.
Then again, I know quite a few people, here and on LJ, that were upset with HPB but I think that was because of 'ships. I'd rather have a small interesting discussion then sort through 50 pages of OMG!!!!
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07-25-2007, 12:00 PM | #64 |
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Even F_W is far more restrained than I'd thought it would be, and I was hoping for more than rage.
There are a couple of decent essays at The HMS STFU though. Non-shipping, even. As an aside, the contingent who think Dumbledore sucks missed the point terribly. Heck, I'm even starting to come around on Snape. He'll always be a lousy teacher though. In a lot of cases, yeah. Many others I saw barely mentioned who was swapping spit with whom. Then again, there was more to speculate about than there is now, I suppose.
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I also checked out the end of Chamber of Secrets, when Dumbledore is talking to Harry about his ability to communicate with snakes. In the context of explaining to Harry that Voldemort's curse backfired and some of his power was transferred to Harry, Harry very explicitly asks: "So Voldemort put part of himself into me?", which wasn't actually what Dumbledore had said. Foreshadowing, indeed. ETA: According to this, those casting rumours for HBP are simply untrue: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=22766
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I feel the same way about Draco. All the fanfic depicting him as this lonely, misunderstood boy who's really as good a person as Harry or Ron is an idealized version of the character. The simple fact is that he's just as selfish as Snape. He isn't evil or anything, just selfish. I still kind of like the fanfic version of him though. |
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And that's mostly why I don't read HP fanfic. I can't stand the woobification of characters like Snape and Draco, and it seems like 99.9% of the fanfic I come across does one or the other.
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There's this one fanfic by mochabutterfly that's post-war and Draco's living in the Muggle world as - of all things - a Canadian Mounty. It's absurd if you think about it but the way that the author writes the character makes it - well not believable - but enjoyable. It's Draco in that he looks like Draco and has the prejudices of Draco but everything else is different. That's the wonder of fanfic and I think JKR knows that. Which is why the Epilogue is the way it is. She's aware of the huge fanbase on the Internet and she knows that people like playing with her character so she gave us just the barest of information so that we can explore on our own. I know that the HP encyclopedia will provide a lot of backstory for the characters but in terms of post-war events. I think she's left it up to us to create our own HP worlds. |
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I have NEVER read HP fanfic. For all of the reasons you've mentioned above and more. First and foremost for me it's about Harry and his destiny or whatever you choose to call it, and those who help him along the way and those who throw up the road blocks. I don't care who he's snogging in the hallways, I don't care who Ron is snogging in the hallways, and I don't care who Hermione is snogging in the hallways. There is nothing remotely romantic about Voldemort, he is not misunderstood, nor does he just need a hug. He is EVIL. Snape, while not the most evil person in the world, comes in a pretty close second. Whew! I feel better. |
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Oh but I don't mean that she's giving fans the freedom to morph her characters into people they aren't. Just that she left room for some of the less important stuff to be up to us. Like whatever jobs Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione has, or who Draco's wife is, or how George was able to cope with Fred's loss.
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Well, I gather the Dumbledore sucks crowd believes so because of his actions when he was a teenager. 'Cause apparently, as you are at 17, so you are at 70. Which, news to me.
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It felt out of place compared to the other books (though given their ages, natural that it'd feature in some regards), and because this wasn't her strongest area of writing, it grated on people while reading the book, no matter what ship pref. Though granted, the more fanaticial shippers did go somewhat overboard with their protests. Quote:
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Perhaps you're right. Though I liked HBP, so not about that, obviously.
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