02-25-2008, 11:50 PM | #31 |
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Ooh... obsession and youthful lust, a deadly combination. I can solely ship a pairing for those reasons only. Doesn't bother me any.
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02-27-2008, 12:12 PM | #32 |
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Picky, picky, picky.
I accepted B/A but I never actually liked the characters individually on BTVS so I didn't really care who they ended up with, Buffy was whiny and Angel had no balls. It was only on ATS I started getting interested in Angel's love life what with whiny out of the way. I was always a Cordelia fan and I was intruiged with how the C/A relationship was going to play. Really before C/A I never shipped I just accepted every relationship. However after that I have shipped and I am sad to say that every ship I have shipped has either never come about or has died a miserable death. I seem t have knack for joining a ship or a series just before it crashes and burns.
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02-27-2008, 01:23 PM | #33 |
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I think I'm in the minority in that I didn't always love Cordelia. When BtVS first started, I actually didn't like her all that much. As the show went on, she grew on me, and I liked her a little more each season. But, while on BtVS, she was never one of my favorite characters. And the idea of Cordy/Angel never even entered my mind back then.
Then, "City Of..." started, and it was like my eyes were opened to the fabulousness that was Cordelia. Something about the way she said, "Are you still...Grrrr?" (with the hand gestures, and making that face) just won me over instantly. I fell in love with the gal, and she eventually became one of my favorite characters on either show before AtS had finished it's first season. (Back then, it was a toss up between her and Angel. Who I liked more depended on the day.) Going back to watch older episodes of BtVS was like a new experience, because I appreciated Cordy in a way I hadn't before.
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02-27-2008, 07:39 PM | #34 |
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I remember during the first few episodes of BtVS s1, I was constantly surprised that she kept surviving. I also noticed she was almost always the damsel that Buffy kept saving. Then they did Out of Mind, Out of Sight and I discovered there was a little bit of depth to Cordelia. A self-awareness that other girls in her situation didn't necessarily have. Didn't mean that she was gonna suddenly be all soft and gooey with the Scoobies, obviously, at least Buffy knew where she was coming from.
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02-28-2008, 12:59 PM | #35 | |
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I loved the idea of a show featuring Angel and Cordy. I liked them both; I'd liked Cordy from the start and Angel started appealing to me in the third season. You know, after he started to grow a pair. So I thought it would make a good show. I didn't ship them at the time, or even know what shipping was for that matter, I just thought they made a good team. Then they brought Kate in and almost lost me. I hated her and thought she was a drag on the show. Now I realize it wasn't so much the character as it was ER. She's awful. She even makes Hayden Christianson look brilliant. And if any of you have been around me long enough, you'll know that's saying something. But I digress. Somewhere around the end of S2, (post beige-pre Pylea), I thought you know, David and Charisma look good together. They have similar coloring, big beautiful smiles and obvious chemistry. I wonder why no one has thought about putting Angel and Cordy together as a couple. They'd make a good one. So I started nosing around The Bronze to see if anyone thought the same way ( ), and then I found a Buffy-verse site map. It wasn't Slayer-verse, but something like that. The lone C/A site that had any content was "Priceless". Well slap my ass and thank you Dianna! There were others who felt the same way! Then right about the same time, the whole Pylea arc started and Woo Hoo! A love was born. After that well, as any good C/Aer knows, all roads lead to ST and here we are eight years later. Last edited by Lovin' Lorne; 02-28-2008 at 01:19 PM. |
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In three years, she and Angel had barely talked, and I just couldn't imagine a real friendship developing between them. Before we knew the details of the new show, I imagined Cordy going to college in LA or something, and getting in occasional trouble, and Angel having to save her a lot. And that was pretty much the extent of the relationship I thought they'd have. Well let me just say I've never been so happy to be proven so wrong.
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02-28-2008, 08:00 PM | #37 |
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Add me to the list of those who weren't excited about Cordy at first. In fact, I was pretty horrified that Cordelia was (1) leaving BtVS and (2) joining AtS. In my world, she and Xander would have ended up back together at some point. And I was none too sure that AtS would even make it. I was a diehard B/Aer throughout seasons 1 and 2 of BtVS, but season 3 just wore me out. (And that "lover" line still makes me cringe when I think about it.) I wasn't certain DB had the acting chops to hold a show on his own.
I watched the first season of AtS mainly because it came on right after BtVS. But as the season wore on, I realized that AtS was (to me) a better show. Than I'd thought, and than BtVS. ("I Will Remember You" absolutely broke my heart. At the time, I thought it was the most tragically romantic thing I'd ever seen. I have since seen the light. And the ep for what it was--melodramatic drivel.) I don't remember now exatly when I realized how fabulous Cordy really was--it might have been Parting Gifts. Still one of my fave eps. Even then I denied the sparkage, but I know for sure that by the time Angel leaned over Cordy's bed promising to get her back because he needed her back... *sigh* By then I was a diehard C/Aer, and I never looked back. (Not even through season 2 and the Darla madness. And it was hard then.) I had been a poster at the ASSBoard for a while by then, and had become a Cordy defender. In fact, I think the virulent anti-Cordy-ness displayed by some of the crazies there pushed me a little more staunchly into Cordy's corner. Wren sent me a link to one of the long ago incarnations of this board, and the rest was history. To this day, some of the best times I've had online were during the pre- and early season 3 times, when our ship was really sailing. Good times.
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I love this board, ya guys
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03-03-2008, 03:44 PM | #39 |
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I too didn't find Angel very interesting while he was on "Buffy." The writers did a great job of making him interesting and deep once he was on the show; it still doesn't make sense to me why Cordelia decided to move to LA to become an actress. A model maybe, but I guess the writers wanted to give her a career option she was destined to fail at.
I loved that girl but in "Angel" seasons 3 or 4 I started to lose interest in her because she was losing her snarkiness.
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My shipping history has a similar 'oddness' that I am seeing in others. An 'on-again-off-again' sort of affair that finally came together into C/A love.
I adored the original Buffy movie and when it became a series I decided to give it a go. I found it to be more childish than the movie had seemed to be and for a while I stopped watching BtVS because I was turned off. I came back to it and really enjoyed watching as the group matured. I never was a B/A shipper because I simply never thought there could be any real depth to the relationship. It turned out exactly as I thought it would and I was snottily happy about that. When AtS began I did not tune in. I kept on watching BtVS because I hadn't liked Glenn Quinn's role on Roseanne and didn't think there was much to Cordelia's character -- at least not enough for her to be one of the key three palyers in a series. If I was in front of the television grading papers and it was on then it became background noise. Nothing more. I'm not sure when during season one that I realized Cordelia's character was evolving and that Charisma was so amazing in her role. So what turned me into a shipper? TSILA. The scene where he holds her hand in the hospital and tells her that he needs here is when I sat up, left my students papers ungraded and said, "there is something here." I spent the summer catching reruns I had missed, lurking on a few websites (finally stumbling upon our little home away from home) and by the time season 2 started I could be found where so many of the rest of us could be found -- alternating between being glued to the television and yelling at it. Last edited by rainy; 03-03-2008 at 07:47 PM. |
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Oh, the memories of yelling at the TV. Good times.
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I thought BtVS: The Movie was...alright. I liked the whole "young girl battles vampires," part. But I've been watching horror movies and B-grade martial arts flicks since I was, like, 6. So it didn't have enough hardcore martial arts action, real scares, or blood for my tastes.
From the beginning, I thought the show was much better in a lot of ways. The fighting was better, and things were a tad more graphic. And, while there was humor, the scares were treated more seriously. I'm just glad that they the show ditched vampire bat ears (like in the movie) and went with bumpy foreheads and yellow eyes instead.
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I came in really really late into the Buffy/Angelverse. It was November 2000, I was flipping thru the channels and whoa! Stop, go back. Who's that? It of course, was the S2 Angel episode, The Trial. With David in all his half naked God-like glory. That right there and then got me hooked. Of course I knew Angel was a spinoff of Buffy, so I set out to find the early seasons of Buffy to kind of 'fill myself in' on both shows. From the beginning I got hooked on the whole B/A 'doomed love that can't work' theory they were pushing down our throats. Then into Angel, I really liked the dark hero working with the beautiful oh-so-valley girl Cordelia and the 'little Irish man'. Then Wesley came along, and it became more apparent to me that Angel and Cordy should be together and then when they started taking us down that path, I was in my glory. And of course, they threw all that into the wind. What really finished me off was Apocalyse Nowish, with the notorious Connor/Cordy bedroom scene. So I became strictly an Angel by himself fan, until the final season's episode, 'You're Welcome' when all those tingly feelings came back to me. But of course, that relationship was doomed also. Reading TONS of fanfiction brought me back to the C/A thing. But now that that 'verse' is over, I find myself back to where I was when I was a little girl in love with Luke Skywalker. The sci-fi shipper in me is now hooked on another 'doomed' love affair, that of Anakin/Padme of the Star Wars prequel trio of movies. There's large amounts of some excellent fanfiction on that coupling, and that's what I enjoy now. I like Bones the tv show, but can't seem to like Booth/Brennan together on the show or insome of the excellent fanfiction. So for me, right now, it's gotta be the A/P dynamic, where Anakin doesn't fall to the dark side, fanfiction. Great reading with a lot of crossover B/A, and C/A writers, now dabbling in the prequels fanfiction and that's where I'm at now.. Ah, buf for a long long while, all was good in the C/A verse!
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