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Old 11-28-2007, 02:09 PM   #16
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He thought the vengeance would be against him and the the group. "We won't be here when the dust settles." Unfortuantely, he didn't realise that the SPs would exploit his weakness and send those under his charge (LA) to hell. Now he is trying to help people out again. If that doesn't make him a hero, what does?
He didn't know the SPs would exploit his weakness? Just where was Angel for the last 5 years? Did all the hair gel rot his brain or something?
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:34 PM   #17
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First of all, I think Angel is a hero. He's just a flawed one, and let's face it, all the best ones are. I don't think anyone would disagree that over the course of the show he drew some seriously messed up conclusions. I feel comfortable in saying that I doubt anyone really thinks Cordy gave him that final vision to send them all on a kamikaze mission against the lackeys of the Senior Partners to what, annoy them? We all know what happened the last time Angel decided to go to the home office and attack the big bad evil at its source. Hello, Epiphany time?
You're right. Angel is a flawed heroes are the best, which is why Spike hasn't appealed to me as he has always been put across as a goody goody. Batman was flawed, Spikderman was flawed, Wolverine, Hulk etc etc. Angel is very flawed but he still saves lives.

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As far as ATF goes, so far the biggest stretch for me is the idea that the whole of Los Angeles has been sucked into Hell. I'm sorry, but the idea that one of the most powerful, wealthy, and influential cities in the world could be plucked out of our dimension and not have serious repurcussions in the real world stretches my suspension of disbelief. Obviously Buffy season 8 is a year of real time behind ATF, but if a one-Starbucks-town like Sunnydale blowing up causes the government to freak, then the sudden disappearance of LA would raise some red flags. ATF is only one issue in, so I'll reserve judgement until at least number 5, but they were so busy trying to drop shock and awe bombs on Angel fans (*gasp* Wes is dead but not gone..*gasp* Connor is with Gwen and Nina..*gasp*Gunn is a vamp!) that it had almost no substance.
The whole of LA lost daylight and no one on the outside questioned it. I don't think LA has been taken from the world. I think has been let into LA but the rest of the world is shielded from it by the barrier. Perhaps the outside world can't see all this happening. Exactly though, Buffy is a lot longer after Atf. Perhaps it is this incident that makes the government turn on supernatural beings (not to mention Joss' recent stint on X-Men.)

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Now, I'm a Cordy fan. If they wanted to reintroduce Cordelia as a character in ATF, it would be easy. I could totally see a servant of the Powers arriving in Hell to try to drag their Champion back out. I don't think they will. Lynch, as has already been mentioned, isn't a Cordy fan. He's way big on the Spike and Illyria love. I'm not holding my breath to see her mentioned at all unless as a throwaway comment.
I love Cordelia more than any character besides Angel and would love to see her back, but I don't think we can blame Brian. Joss calls th shots on this wih some ideas being brought to the table by Lynch. It's very much like Btvs Season 6. Joss says, Brian/Marti obeys and writes. They have to. It's their jobs. Yes, BL is a Spike and Illyria fan but I am an Angel fan, you a Cordelia fan. As long as it doesn't overtake the story, which BL has promised it won't, then I am happy for him to write it.

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That being said, I noticed something in Buffy season 8. In issue #6 Buffy and Xander have a little interlude where Buffy is talking about one of her dreams, and we all know how important Buffy's dreams are. A big monster chases her down, and right before killing her says, "The Queen is dead. Long live the Queen." I can only think of one "Queen" in the Buffyverse. Could Cordy be slotted to show up in the Buffy comic, possibly as a villain? If so, that would explain why she can't be in ATF. Of course, that could be wishful thinking and desire to see my favorite character back in some form or another.
I think IDW has rights to Cordelia as they are the writers of ANGEL. The Angel franchise has always been IDW's and Cordelia is part of that. Besides, evil Cordelia has already been done and it didn't go down well. I doubt he'd risk it again. Maybe it's another Bufy vs Faith arc.

Anyway, seeing as your a reader of ATF, I can give you the link to IDW so you can talk to fellow ATF readers and Brian Lynch himself. If you want the link let me know.
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