CC's Official Site (UPDATE: Debunked) [Archive]

tojoson

12-11-2007, 12:41 PM

Shalazar hasn't heard of this. He is taking a wait and see attitude. Go to his site and read his post.

My thoughts:
I don't know if this is real or not. there's no NEW info here and the letter from Charisma could have been written by anyone. A store for selling Charisma stuff. A 15 dollar per month fee for C.C. World, and why wouldn't she go with Shalazar's site instead of starting a new one. Plus as Shalazar points out, no domain name.

I too will wait and see.

Bert

12-11-2007, 03:33 PM

Morrigan

12-11-2007, 06:33 PM

So, its a fake? That sucks. :bitter:

tojoson

12-11-2007, 07:11 PM

It's not necessarily a fake. It's just that there's no official confirmation...yet.

I'll just wait and see what Shalazar can find out.

Shadow4Corangela

12-11-2007, 08:04 PM

Ahhh. pooie. it did seem a little to good to be true. :(

ETA: does that mean that her new myspace is not real too? There was a funny bit (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=281246440) on her blog about how some people think she's cordy. :lol:

3. I cannot stress this enough but my name is Charisma NOT Cordy! Cordy is a highly recognized character that I played in the past.

tojoson

12-11-2007, 08:44 PM

I hope this site IS legit. It would be nice to have a pipeline to CC.

Wouldn't it be nice if, when she has her chat, we could tell her, "Hey Charisma, we just voted you into first place as the most beautiful woman, AND the best actress IN THE WORLD." Wouldn't that be a nice slightly-after-Christmas present.

Shameless promotion, I know but anythings fair...
She needs more voters.

Go Stem.

http://www.nationaleopinie.nl/forums/

SamIAm

12-12-2007, 07:32 AM

It's not necessarily a fake. It's just that there's no official confirmation...yet.

Huh. Bummer. Well, let's hope it's real.

Bryan

12-16-2007, 01:49 PM

The e-online article would seem to undermine the veracity of this "official" site.

Bert

12-16-2007, 02:51 PM

The e-online article would seem to undermine the veracity of this "official" site.

Agreed.

I also think that Charisma is very aware of both CC.com and Stranger Things. If she were to commission an official site I just think we'd have been told - rather than one of us stumbling on it by accident...

Penny Century

12-16-2007, 10:39 PM

Let's not forget that CC has been spoofed on MySpace before, which Chrissy (a verified reliable source) debunked in no uncertain terms. A bit of skepticism is warranted for that reason, too.

Morrigan

12-17-2007, 08:49 AM

Let's not forget that CC has been spoofed on MySpace before, which Chrissy (a verified reliable source) debunked in no uncertain terms. A bit of skepticism is warranted for that reason, too.

Anyone else find that just plain odd? I've heard of quite a few celebs who have their own websites and myspace pages. It make you wonder why CC gets spoofed.

ophelia

12-18-2007, 08:50 PM

Well, I have to say the letter did sound a little.....odd. Almost a little, well, young-sounding if that makes any sense.

But what do I know?

Also-- I agree with those who wonder what the benefit of this is. People are so weird sometimes.

fiddly

12-20-2007, 02:59 PM

The site seemed funky to me when I first saw it but I didn't want to say anything unless I was just acting a little too paranoid. The biography part had a a slight mills and boons aspect to it (when describing her hair) that didn't quite cut it for me.

Fidd

Luna

12-20-2007, 08:54 PM

Hard to say if the letter is really written by Charisma. It sounds a bit like it had been written by a younger person and it´s strange that there´s a website of her out of nothing. I guess we just have to wait.:confused:

Freakface

12-20-2007, 09:02 PM

I must say that we should wait and see... There is that outside chance that it is really her website. And if you think about it, this may be one way to head off any bad press from the separation. (I know, I am being blindly hopeful.) :tinfoil:

Freakface

12-23-2007, 07:08 PM

Alright, this might lend some credibility to the "official" website. I sent a couple text submissions (like Merry Christmas) on her site and I just got this response in my email:
Thank-you so much for the message. I am on my way to San Fransisco and I am excited for the holidays. Have a happy holiday and I'll hopefully talk to you at my Bringing in the New Years chat and most of it is going to be live on video!
That live video chat might do it for me as a legitimate official site.

Morrigan

12-23-2007, 07:52 PM

Do we know if Shalazar was ever able to confirm it? I'd feel better if we got confirmation from a legitimate source.

tojoson

01-11-2008, 10:33 PM

Don't forget.

Saturday at 6:00 P.M. eastern time is that supposed chat scheduled on the website.

Chat section here. (http://charismacarpenteronline.weebly.com/chat.html)

eric_rhapsody04

01-12-2008, 02:40 PM

thank you:)

Freakface

01-12-2008, 05:03 PM

All quiet on the Eastern Front... not a good sign..

Livvie

01-12-2008, 05:07 PM

I really had my doubts about this and it is not looking good. Almost 10 minutes and nothing, no updates or anything. Not even a small note on the front page that says "Charisma can't make it. Emergency." or something.

Freakface

01-12-2008, 05:14 PM

I wonder if it meant Western time? That would make the chat at 8pm EST. Just being hopeful. :confused:

Livvie

01-12-2008, 05:20 PM

I wonder if it meant Western time? That would make the chat at 8pm EST. Just being hopeful. :confused:

I think if it is, that lends even less credibility to this site. They couldn't even post the right time?

I've done official chats through celeb fan clubs before and they were almost like little dictators in the rules and start times. We had to submit questions two weeks beforehand along with our username and desired password. Then we were emailed a link to the chat room along with the questions that were "okay". When they said your name, you could post one of your approved questions.

I guess after going through that, this whole thing now makes me super skeptical.

tojoson

01-12-2008, 06:09 PM

Well, 5:00 Mountain time and still nothing...

Livvie

01-12-2008, 07:21 PM

5:20 Pacific Time and nothing. I think it is about time to call it.

Freakface

01-12-2008, 07:36 PM

Yeah, it sucks... :confused:

But I still love Charisma! :kiss:

tojoson

01-12-2008, 07:45 PM

5:20 Pacific Time and nothing. I think it is about time to call it.

Unless you want to wait for Hawaiian time, or even Asian time. Heh, Heh

starlet2367

01-12-2008, 09:19 PM

Well, shoot. I'd hoped this was the real thing.

Maybe we ought to all email them and say "Liar, liar pants on fire."

:poed:

ETA: Now it says the chat is Jan. 19 at 5:00 p.m (http://charismacarpenteronline.weebly.com/chat.html). Central. WTF?

ophelia

01-12-2008, 10:04 PM

Silly Kel, haven't you heard of the "Moving Target Chats"? They're all the rage now!

Freakface

01-12-2008, 10:06 PM

I guess hope for the best... :iamsmilin

tojoson

01-12-2008, 10:26 PM

They added a January update that has CC and some friends working to eliminate fraud and posers from Myspace.

How interesting.

Here's CC, who has admitted she's NOT computer savvy, and with all that''s going on in her private life, and her work, and she decides to clean up Myspace. BOGUS>

Livvie

01-12-2008, 10:41 PM

And when you go to the MySpace Page for the "Unbreakable Team", it has this for the info:

Female
19 years old
Imperial Beach, California
United States

Does this seem a bit odd to anyone else? I've heard of 19 year old web designers before but getting employed by someone famous? Iffy.

And what better way to prove you aren't a fraud than to eliminate the posers! Cast suspicion someplace else.

Has anyone considered contacting Weebly and asking for the name of the person that registered the domain? I mean, when you can use a host of websites to see who registered domains, they shouldn't be that iffy about releasing it. Maybe someone like Shalazar would have more cred to request us than us.

When I checked the domain of charismacarpenteronline.com earlier, in case they changed to a paid domain, it turns out it was registered through AOL's free domain service. I only have experience with other official websites but they have all been bought and paid for and a hell of a lot better designed that that one. (And these were SOAP actors! Not the highest paid or the most well known out there).

This just keeps getting odder and odder.

Freakface

01-12-2008, 10:42 PM

I'm just taking a wait and see approach. I'm not gonna treat it as an offcial site, however, I won't slam it completely unless it is a blatant ripoff. Charisma may not be Tech-savvy, but she might have tech support to teach her how to connect to fans. She has to keep herself busy somehow during this painful writer's strike, and the apparent turmoil in her personal life.

Just wait and see in the next few weeks. It really doesn't matter to me. I still love Charisma. But that's my 2-cents.

nikkiwawa

01-12-2008, 11:08 PM

Well, CC's myspace has been on my flist for awhile, now. Still not sure if it's real. I just joined the Unbreakable thing, because I was skeptical. I want to see if there is a pattern, etc., to see if I can catch any fakes.

Kel, I noticed that it says it's a female 19 years old lol The two people who run that Myspace Fred and Lyssa are like 15 and 16 yrs old. So I was like Ummmmmm...ok :(

Here is the About Me from Unbreakable:
To Everyone-

Charisma Carpenter here. If you don't know me I'm an actress/model/mother and I have been in the shows "Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Angel and Veronica Mars on the covers of K9 Magazine, Men's Edge and Seventeen. I want to personally say "welcome." This group called "Unbreakable" is a group of 2 close friends that agree with me that posing on myspace is a waste of time and it is ILLEGAL. We need your help getting the word out about this. Each week we will have different missions for YOU guys to help us get the message out. Prizes and free swag will be given out of course. Celebrities, I need your help because we need you guys to also help us make a stand. With this myspace page, I am directly helping myspace by having all the scoop with posers and they will get deleted immediately. If you are wondering what Unbreakable means, it means that there are more of us NOT posing than that ARE posing and our bond is simple unbreakable. I am sorry that I am not personally not managing this page but my two friends Fred and Lyssa will manage it for me and they have done a great job so far. Thanks guys and let's get to protesting!

Charisma Carpenter

I don't know. I hope if someone knows someone that can ask CC what's the real deal, that would be most awesome :) I would hate to find out someone is being fake and doing this to her fans, you know?

Freakface

01-13-2008, 08:30 AM

Okay, I tried to go to an independent source to verify the website. I'd sent a message to a good celeb friend of Charisma on MySpace: Kristen Bell. Now how do I know if the MySpace is really hers: well, she told me when I saw her at New York a couple months back. Her friends and management run the MySpace, but get their information from Kristen herself.

Anyway I conveyed on this message the frustration of us fans with this website and the video chat fiasco and this is their reply:
Anyways, as far as I know... that website is legit & the real deal. I am not sure if it's Charisma herself running it or her people (publicist or management), but I know for sure it is affiliated with Charisma. Well, have a great rest of the weekend & take care. :)

~K-Bell & Co.~

Hopefully this provide some legitimacy to the site and her MySpace pages. Let's not slam it completely until we can definitively determine the site is a fraud. But if Kristen's team can vouch for the site, I can live with it. Again, let's take a wait-and-see approach for a couple weeks.

Livvie

01-13-2008, 12:11 PM

So a 37 year old woman has 15 and 16 year old friends? Doesn't that seem odd to everyone else? Kristen Bell verification aside, something is fishy here.

I guess it is because I am coming from soap fansites. Michael Easton is just about the least tech savvy person out there. I don't think he even knows how to turn on a TV. Originally, he lended his support to an unofficial Michael Easton site until that site went kaput. Then he hired a team and his site is really slick. He does FAQs every month and it is nice.

Same with Kelly Monaco. Another not so tech savvy person who hired a team to do her official website. It was (until Ed, her webmaster, got cancer) this really awesome flash, java explosion. She did a live chat and it was awesome. She did contests all the time and a good friend of mine won a phone call in her Christmas contest. (And her fan club is $30 A YEAR)

Ingo Rademacher, again, another soap celeb has a kick ass website where he posts to his fans, with correctly spellchecked and grammar checked posts. He posts personal pictures that he has taken on vacation, not pictures or videos that anyone has access to on the web.

I could keep going. But these are SOAP actors, who are way less famous and probably have way less cash (or the ability to call in favors) than Charisma. They all have official domains and teams that run their sites. There are people on the Kelly Monaco board that have met her website team and they are professional people in their 30s-40s.

I realize that Kristen Bell says that the site is legit but there is so much mounting evidence here that it is more than likely a fraud. The hosting is free, the domain registry was free. If you were going to make a website, why not make it a GOOD website, you know? If soap actors who aren't tech savvy have the brains to make a good site, you can't tell me someone like Charisma doesn't.

tojoson

01-13-2008, 01:17 PM

I sent an E-mail to Gladys Gonzalez (listed as her manager, along with Carrabino) at Carrabino management, asking her about this.

We'll just have to wait and see if she answers.

Bert

01-13-2008, 03:48 PM

It just seems odd to me.

For Charisma to have previously had such a good relationship with CC.com, even going as far as calling it 'her website' in one interview, and then to just randomly commission this one out of the blue without even telling Shalazar about its existence...

Freakface

01-13-2008, 03:52 PM

Let me ask this question to everybody here, because it seems that I am the only one defending this site unless I know for it to be a fraud :bitch::

Are you willing let this website to develop for a few weeks before you start slamming it to the ground?

I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, becuase I think this is new territory for Charisma to have an official website, then to see a lot of fake official websites that leads to porn sites. And so what if a couple of young people are running the MySpace profiles and this website. I'll bet that they are family friends of Charisma that are doing this as a favor. God knows how many times my friends offers help to my computer problems.

Again, let it develop on its own. But I have no problem getting independent verifications through management and other legit sources.

DamnSkippy

01-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Let me ask this question to everybody here, because it seems that I am the only one defending this site unless I know for it to be a fraud :bitch::

I don't consider people being skeptical and expressing their logical reasons for being skeptical as "slamming." If the site turns out to be real, we'll all be very happy about it. It's not as if anyone is going out on the web and telling everyone they meet NOT to believe this site or calling out the Feds to halt its existence. I think you're just as skeptical, but you're leaning toward the "it's more real than not" side of the argument. We're all in a wait-and-see mode and until it's proven one way or the other, we're all free to express our doubts or, in your case, certainty. :beer:

Morrigan

01-13-2008, 04:38 PM

For me, CC going with another site, instead of C-C.com/Shalzar as her "official site" isn't that hinky. It could be something where she needs/wants more control, could also be a matter of keeping close to home, trusting friends and family to have her best interests. Hell, it could also be as simple as giving a hard up friend/family member a pay check.

However, the lack of confirmation, the fact that you have teenagers running the site (although, teenagers are probably just as talented as "professional web designers") the missed "chat" with no warning ahead of time and the fact that there's too much ananimity to the internet gives me doubts.

To be honest the whole Foiler Family/Godfather/my toaster gives me inside messages has just made me totally skeptical when it comes to these kind of things.

Addtionally - and no offense Freakface - but are CC/K Bell really all that close? I know they did VM together but CC is actually close with RT's wife. I never saw indication that CC/KBell were friends outside of work. So, confirmation from the people who run KBell's myspace/website doesn't really make it a done deal for me.

I'd very much like for this to be real, I'd love for CC to be in development for some sort of show for 2008. However, I'm going to remain skeptical until I get confirmation a trustworthy source. Hopefully Tojo will get an answer to his/her (I can't believe I don't know which :red: ) email.

Freakface

01-13-2008, 04:50 PM

Can we at least put a pause on this question until Saturday? Again, it feels like I am the only one defending this. I have an optimistic approach to everything in life, so I am going to give the site the benefit of the doubt. But I am monitoring this carefully.

And I ask again: Are you willing let this website to develop for a few weeks before you start slamming it to the ground?

I can understand a healthy skepticism all around. But let's wait and see. (I feel like a broken record here.) Let the site prove itself at its own time. I don't want Charisma see a lot of doubting Thomases if she does have this video chat.

In the meantime, let's go out for a drink :beer: and put this question aside for a few days. Everyone agrees?

Livvie

01-13-2008, 05:28 PM

How many weeks does it need though? The link was posted December 9, 2007. I think over a month is more than enough time for some serious doubts to start being raised.

I am actually going to contact her publicist as well as her agent. I guess what I am feeling is that I have seen better websites done by actors with less fame than Charisma that were done a hell of a lot better. Site is sloppy and it is on a free domain. If it was on geocities and coded the same, I think a lot more people would be questioning.

I am just leaning on the side of "I don't think its valid". If it is legit, then I am going to be really sad because honestly, I think we can all agree, for a fansite, it is fairly poor quality and her fanclub prices are pretty outrageous (at least from the fanclubs I have joined). So I am really hoping in my heart that it is a fraud and she has some really awesome flashy website to shop around instead of this mess.

tojoson

01-13-2008, 05:57 PM

his/her (I can't believe I don't know which :red: ) email.--- His.

On the quality of the site, Shalazar in a post on his site says the site is not even capable of doing some of the stuff they are claiming. (post 9, page 1)

As far as her choice of site???. I would have liked to see her go with Shalazar instead of a new site.
I'm sure he would have gone out of his way to give her anything she wanted to become her OFFICIAL official site.

nikkiwawa

01-13-2008, 06:08 PM

The link was posted December 9, 2007. I think over a month is more than enough time for some serious doubts to start being raised.

Exactly, it was posted here then, but I've had the website bookmarked on my computer way before that(like several months) and didn't even notice that is was supposed to be the "official" site. I thought it was a fansite. So, this site isn't new. It's been around for awhile.

Morrigan

01-13-2008, 06:26 PM

--- His.
Thanks, I won't forget.

Freakface

01-13-2008, 06:52 PM

Just call me an optimist...

ophelia

01-13-2008, 08:31 PM

Morrigan

01-13-2008, 08:53 PM

OK, call me crazy (or just nostalgic) but are any of the other posters from back in the day getting a giggle from this? This is such a flashback to the days of foilers/spoilers and is it true/is it not true.

Frankly at this point it's worth it from an amusement standpoint.

It's funny, I had this whole post (which got erased during the Giants game) written about the foiler family and this one poster over at the A:TS WB Board who got caught doing fake chats. He/she would post links to a website where DB or someone from ME would "chat". It turns out that the website was his/hers and it was all faked. It was always something done to rial up the B/S, B/A, C/A shippers. I don't think it ever made F_W but it was totally worthy. Very amusing.

So yeah, this does bring back some "fun" memories. :lol:

DamnSkippy

01-13-2008, 09:11 PM

I was remembering the same wank, Morrigan, which gives me the heebie jeebies about this chat thing.

I had a small part in the debunking that fake "chat" thing on the WB board and it was that event that eventually drove me to this board. The WB poster would post links to her friend's website and only "special" people would know about these chats. It was the friend (supposedly) that held these fake chats. She claims she had no idea they were fake and was just as shocked as everyone else and yet she blamed me for causing trouble because it blemished her rep. So, yeah, I'm very skeptical when celebrity chats are held on *unofficial* sites.

Angela

01-13-2008, 09:14 PM

I'll admit I've had a bit of a giggle following this thread. And it always makes me happy to see ophelia posting again. :)

But for reals, you guys, my cousin's news anchor got the Dayton, OH, DirecTV guide, and it swears that this really is CC's official site!

ophelia

01-13-2008, 09:42 PM

OMG Angela, you just got me laughing so hard. I think I had blocked a bunch of that stuff, but it has SO come flooding back. You gotta love the cousin that works for an affiliate who accidentally got a videotape from somewhere.

And it wasn't a foiler, but remember that poor girl who accidentally broke the news about Cordelia having "Conner's" baby when she posted pictures on her little website of her set tour? Poor girl has no idea what she was bringing down on herself.

Ah-- internet fandom. It's impossible to explain to anyone who hasn't personally witnessed it (and/or participated in it).

Now I'm missing the wildfeed thread.

Penny Century

01-13-2008, 09:48 PM

And it wasn't a foiler, but remember that poor girl who accidentally broke the news about Cordelia having "Conner's" baby when she posted pictures on her little website of her set tour? Poor girl has no idea what she was bringing down on herself.

Hah! I remember all the writers suddenly and simultaneously bailing out of <strike>their weekly fluffing</strike> The Bronze's posting board, except when Mere Smith crept in with that one plaintive post begging -- literally, BEGGING people not to read spoilers. It was all like, "Please don't quit watching! We haven't been renewed yet!! Oh em GEEEEEeeeeee!!!!!"

ophelia

01-13-2008, 09:56 PM

LOL Penny. I just remember the girl taking down all of the pictures and saying something on her site like "Please. I'm scared. Leave me alone."

I'd also forgotten how much the writers went and preened on The Bronze. Are ANY of those websites still around? Did ST outlast everyone?

Jamie82

01-14-2008, 02:35 AM

And it wasn't a foiler, but remember that poor girl who accidentally broke the news about Cordelia having "Conner's" baby when she posted pictures on her little website of her set tour? Poor girl has no idea what she was bringing down on herself.

Ah-- internet fandom. It's impossible to explain to anyone who hasn't personally witnessed it (and/or participated in it).

Now I'm missing the wildfeed thread.

Wait.. so a girl who had a tour of the Angel set posted pics of it but accidently broke the news about Cordelia and Conner having a baby? I don't remember that. Did you guys ever talk about that on this website? Cause I was around here then. What (if you remember) were the pictures of exactly? Charisma pregnant or something? I'm just curious.

And the wildfeed's. Wow that brings back lots of memories for me. And I still have the link to that website that posted them. It's still there.LOL. LINK (http://www.angelsacolyte.com/)

ophelia

01-14-2008, 07:53 AM

Yeah, Jaime. It was just some poor girl who knew someone who knew someone that got her a set tour. It just happened to be around the time that rumors had started about Charisma being pregnant, but no one knew if it was true. So this girl gets a set tour, gets pictures with a lot of the cast people and just excitedly posts about it on her site. And then she confirmed that Charisma told her she was pregnant....and then (someone with a better memory correct me if I'm wrong) but I think the actor who played Conner's real-life mother said something to the girl about Cordy also being pregnant and it being Connor's.

We DEFINITELY talked about it on the board-- it would have probably all been in the spoiler thread, so if you avoided that you wouldn't have seen it.

I have no idea what website it was. The girl wasn't in the "fandom"-- that's why she had NO idea what she was stepping in to. She took the pictures and comments down after just a few days.

Morrigan

01-14-2008, 08:34 AM

I had a small part in the debunking that fake "chat" thing on the WB board and it was that event that eventually drove me to this board. The WB poster would post links to her friend's website and only "special" people would know about these chats. It was the friend (supposedly) that held these fake chats. She claims she had no idea they were fake and was just as shocked as everyone else and yet she blamed me for causing trouble because it blemished her rep. So, yeah, I'm very skeptical when celebrity chats are held on *unofficial* sites.

Oh my god, I totally forgot that was you. Yeah that was some funny shit, I just loved the fall out from those fake chats.

Angela - You just had to go there. what was that posters name? Razzel? Dazzel?

Oh yeah, the poor girl who broke the story about CC and Cordy being pregnant. WE were all so jaded at that point from foilers that we thought it was totally bogus.

Penny - :lol: Dude! How funny was the Mere Smith begging viewers to stay tuned. Please don't read spoilers, please, we know it sucks but give us another chance....good stuff.

Bert

01-14-2008, 12:48 PM

Morrigan

01-14-2008, 01:49 PM

It's just, I'd expect her/her team to tell Shalazar in order to bring some traffic to the new website.

Yeah, I totally agree on that point. Hell I'm pretty sure at this point that CC's camp is very familar with both C-C.com and ST. You'd think if the myspace page and Website were legit the mod's would get in contact with Penny and Shalazar to drum up some business.

Platypus

01-14-2008, 02:00 PM

We DEFINITELY talked about it on the board-- it would have probably all been in the spoiler thread, so if you avoided that you wouldn't have seen it.

I have no idea what website it was. The girl wasn't in the "fandom"-- that's why she had NO idea what she was stepping in to. She took the pictures and comments down after just a few days.

I'm almost 100% positive it was a LiveJournal entry - it wasn't even a website, just a fan's report about being on set.

I haven't posted in this topic because I hate being a downer, but I've never believed that this website had any legitimacy for two reasons: (1) CC has always been intensely private, and so the personal letter that alluded to her marital split, etc. was way out of character; and (2) for someone who has at times been reluctant (if I recall correctly) to charge for signing autographs at conventions, the whole signed merchandise and store set-up on the site seemed bizarre. There was just no smack of reality for me.

I can understand that some people want to take a 'wait-and-see' attitude, but I think it's important to be a bit skeptical, because I hate to think of anyone handing over money to this site for merchandise when it may be fraudulent. I'm sure CC has bigger issues occupying her time right now (divorce proceedings, the writers' strike, etc.), and I just don't see this as being the time she would suddenly expand her online presence. I could be wrong, but I'm very doubtful.

Morrigan

01-14-2008, 02:43 PM

Oh my god! Platy! :bounce: Girl, where have you been?

Platypus

01-14-2008, 03:29 PM

I've been around and lurking, just not much to say and very busy at work. Plus, I have unfortunately discovered the world of free online poker tournaments, and have wasted several hours since early in December bemoaning the cruel poker gods .

And how the heck are you? :kiss:

jaywalker

01-14-2008, 04:42 PM

The wildfeed!! *wave of nostalgia washes over Jay* - anyhow, I checked out the link a few weeks back and agree (and sincerely hope) the site is fake.

Time will tell. Also enjoying the memories of fandom, days gone by :) One key fake moment - anyone remember The Bronze supporting a seriously ill child - some of the writers even got involved (I think it was Fury) and wrote a note of support. It was eventually revealed as a hoax. Presuming The Bronze is gone? How about Ducks and the B/A crew? I enjoyed B/A but those guys just denied every hint of C/A for way past the point of reason...

Morrigan

01-14-2008, 05:22 PM

Plus, I have unfortunately discovered the world of free online poker tournaments, and have wasted several hours since early in December bemoaning the cruel poker gods .

And how the heck are you? :kiss:

I stay as far away from online poker sites as possible, I'd go totally broke if I didn't. Other than that, I'm good, busy with work and school.

Jaywalker - I don't recall the fake kid but I didn't go to the Bronze all that much. The Ducks were a wacky bunch; talk about a group that self-destructed. Thankfully we picked up the best of the bunch.

ophelia

01-14-2008, 06:27 PM

Hey Platy!! :) I think you're right about the live-journal thing....I was using "website" only in the most general of terms..... lol (I'm so technical)

And yeah-- whoever asked above....I think it was "Razzle" or maybe "Razzie"? I don't know.

Kit

01-14-2008, 07:12 PM

Morrigan

01-14-2008, 07:30 PM

If I remember correctly, didn't one of the foiler members disappeared and then a new foiler member came and said he/she/it "died" or something? Did that really happen or did I get my fandoms confused?
Yep that happened. Although, I hear it's a common online practice.

Ophelia - Yep, it was Razzle

Livvie

01-14-2008, 09:21 PM

How about Ducks and the B/A crew? I enjoyed B/A but those guys just denied every hint of C/A for way past the point of reason...

Ducks is still around and still very active on LJ. She reviews episodes of Angel in her own *unique* style. Full on bucket of crazy. She won't call Cordelia by name. I think most of her "crew" has gone on to other things though.

samsmom

01-14-2008, 09:33 PM

Ducks is still around and still very active on LJ. She reviews episodes of Angel in her own *unique* style. Full on bucket of crazy. She won't call Cordelia by name. I think most of her "crew" has gone on to other things though.

Yeah, she's pretty much talking to an empty room these days, I think.

So sad. /sarcasm

I doubt Cordelia, or her fans, are losing any sleep over not being called by name.

ophelia

01-14-2008, 09:43 PM

I doubt Cordelia, or her fans, are losing any sleep over not being called by name.

All 8 of us.

samsmom

01-14-2008, 09:47 PM

I think we need to do a head count.

We might be twelve now.

Angela

01-14-2008, 10:54 PM

I'm SURE we're up to 15 by now. I know the voices in my head alone have tripled, which is fortunate. I'm all about finding my own entertainment during the strike.

Wasn't it actually something like Razziel? It was Razzle-like but not exactly Razzle to my way of thinking. But I'm not certain it was Razzle who posted the cousin-the-anchor-by-way-of-DirecTV-guide. Somewhere around there we had one of the foiler family "leave" after another member of the family came on and confessed about hir relative/friend/whatever doing the 'foiling', but the 'legitimate' person was around to stay!

Or did I totally misremember that?

Elisha

01-15-2008, 03:06 AM

*Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away….* (where is Emma when you need her)

Wow memories it’s all coming flooding back, I miss the days when we had to walk 15 miles up hills barefoot, in the snow.
Your right Ang, there has to be at least 15 of us by now. I’m having flash backs right now about soap and I’m not so sure where that comes from.

I can’t believe Ducks is still out there, you have to give kudos to the girl it must be hard being the only one left.
And with that I’m off to drink some lemonade... :trot:

Freakface

01-15-2008, 05:30 AM

Getting back to the subject on hand before this thread completely goes off track, Shalazar at C-C.com gave his highly critical analysis, and it does not look good for the website:

http://www.charisma-carpenter.com/forum/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/35639/page/0/vc/1

Morrigan

01-15-2008, 07:25 AM

*Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away….* (where is Emma when you need her)

woot! Elisha's here :bounce: Oh memories of the anti-wildfeed and pessie thread all brought back in that one song line :cry:

Getting back to the subject on hand before this thread completely goes off track, Shalazar at C-C.com gave his highly critical analysis, and it does not look good for the website:
There's a shocker!

Emmangel

01-15-2008, 07:49 AM

*Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away….* (where is Emma when you need her)
HERE!
And someone a page or so back mentioned The Bronze. Last I checked it was still around in the form of the Bronze Beta and I assume it's still there.

Also, there is AT LEAST 15 of us, because I've met at least 14 of you, and then there's me. I assume the rest of you are our other personalities!

ophelia

01-15-2008, 08:07 AM

Getting back to the subject on hand before this thread completely goes off track,

Topic? What topic? (kidding, kidding-- thanks for the update......)

Also, there is AT LEAST 15 of us, because I've met at least 14 of you, and then there's me. I assume the rest of you are our other personalities!

And Em! Hey!

And since I've never met any of you.....imagine my shock discover after all these years I'm a figment of someone's imagination! Cool.

bigbird811

01-15-2008, 08:12 AM

I assume the rest of you are our other personalities!

Who am I??????? :cry:

Ducks is still around and still very active on LJ. She reviews episodes of Angel in her own *unique* style. Full on bucket of crazy. She won't call Cordelia by name. I think most of her "crew" has gone on to other things though.

That gal, and her board, rotted my brain the time I came upon their craziness. And they were terrifying. Especially all their anti-Spike rage, and the death threats against the fans of Spuffy. I even recall a post where a Bangel, I'm guessing deliberately, misspelled 'Spuffy', replacing the f's with g's. They were completely out of control with their ship bashing, and anytime anyone admitted to even remotely liking Spike, or Cordy, for that matter, they would go absolutely nutso and want the 'dirty traitor''s head.

Short: They scared the shit out of me. And I wasn't even watching the shows seriously. (Plus, I was only ten or so...believe it)

SamIAm

01-15-2008, 10:55 AM

And since I've never met any of you.....imagine my shock discover after all these years I'm a figment of someone's imagination! Cool.

We had a support group for that a while ago, but no one ever showed up to the meetings.

Bryan

01-15-2008, 10:57 AM

Penny Century

01-15-2008, 11:07 AM

Thanks very much Freakface for bringing that across.

Same here. Shalazar comes through once again. Many of us have been expecting his site to become official for some time now; as good as it is to have the info at hand about the Weebly site, it's arguably better news that a known and trusted responsible actor like Shal is almost certain to be in charge of a real official presence.

tojoson

01-15-2008, 12:20 PM

I received an e-mail back from her management

We have nothing to do with this website… it’s fraud. Please get the word out there and I will look into getting this site shut down.

Thank you for your help.

Best, Gladys

--------------------------------------------------------

Gladys Gonzalez
JOHN CARRABINO MANAGEMENT
5900 Wilshire Boulevard
4th Floor, Suite 406
Los Angeles, CA 90036

O) (323) 857-4655
F) (323) 857-4659
Email: ggonzalez@carrabinomgt.com

starlet2367

01-15-2008, 12:27 PM

Two words, Tojo: you rock.

Livvie

01-15-2008, 12:46 PM

Tojo, you are awesome. I still haven't heard from her publicist or her agent yet. At least her management team is quick. LOL

Did you write her back about the MySpace pages as well?

tojoson

01-15-2008, 01:11 PM

Did you write her back about the MySpace pages as well?

No. I'm Myspace ignorant. I don't belong, and I don't visit. I'll leave that to someone who knows what they're talking about.
Her e-mail address is in her return---feel free.

Tom

Morrigan

01-15-2008, 01:39 PM

No. I'm Myspace ignorant. I don't belong, and I don't visit. I'll leave that to someone who knows what they're talking about.
Her e-mail address is in her return---feel free.

Tom

Hehe. I think I have an account but I'll join you on the ignorant couch, cause myspace just messes with my mind.

Nice job Tojo and Shalazar. :encore:

Jamie82

01-15-2008, 02:35 PM

Thanks for bringing that, Freakface and Tojoson

One more thing about foilers, wasn't there someone on here around season 3 that was posting "spoilers". Telling us things coming up in the show about C/A's relationship. I remember one, before Waiting In The Wings aired, they said that C/A actually would sleep together in the episode and it would be awkward for them afterwards. But we started to disbelieve when none of this came true. Anyone remember this? LOL

Lovin' Lorne

01-15-2008, 02:52 PM

I received an e-mail back from her management

Quote:
We have nothing to do with this website… it’s fraud. Please get the word out there and I will look into getting this site shut down.

Thank you for your help.

Best, Gladys

Thanks for getting to the bottom of this, tojo. I figured that was going to be the case. I hope no one shelled out any $$$ for those items in the store area.

You know, it just amazes me how many people seem to claim to either be Charisma, or have something to do with her. Lord knows I admire and like the woman, I wouldn't be here if I didn't, but she's not exactly a "high profile" actress.

What do you think it is about her that causes people to do this?? :confused:

nikkiwawa

01-15-2008, 02:57 PM

No. I'm Myspace ignorant. I don't belong, and I don't visit. I'll leave that to someone who knows what they're talking about.
Her e-mail address is in her return---feel free.

Tom

I'm pretty Myspace savvy and I actually have her supposed "official" Myspace page and that Unbreakable page on my list. I can send an e-mail to bring that to Gladys attention, if that would help :)

Thanks tojoson for sharing the response. I hope that damn site gets shut down.

Bert

01-15-2008, 05:21 PM

Lord knows I admire and like the woman, I wouldn't be here if I didn't, but she's not exactly a "high profile" actress.

:eek: Sacrilege!

If I was more substantial than simply being a voice in Emma's head, I'd come down there and I'd... I'd... be open-mouthed in shock a little closer to you than I am now.

Blaspehemy....

:grin:

Actually, I came across a similar thing on Facebook, someone claiming to be John Barrowman, when in fact he wasn't. I think, more than anything, if an actor is related to a cult show, this kind of thing is more common-place.

Most cult shows, I'd say more than any other kind of show, have a large, dedicated online presence...

Freakface

01-15-2008, 06:03 PM

Okay... I am done being skeptical ... the proof is there... I seriously hoped that there is a real Charisma Carpenter Official Website in the near future.

Now if you excuse me, I will now go to the corner and get shot in the ass with an airsoft rifle for defending the site. :9mm:

Lovin' Lorne

01-15-2008, 06:31 PM

:eek: Sacrilege!

If I was more substantial than simply being a voice in Emma's head, I'd come down there and I'd... I'd... be open-mouthed in shock a little closer to you than I am now.

Blaspehemy....

:grin:

Actually, I came across a similar thing on Facebook, someone claiming to be John Barrowman, when in fact he wasn't. I think, more than anything, if an actor is related to a cult show, this kind of thing is more common-place.

Most cult shows, I'd say more than any other kind of show, have a large, dedicated online presence...

I suppose you're right about cult shows and their fan base being a big online presence. I mean *looks arouns ST* HELLO, right? ;)

I guess people are just so hungry for any news on the CC front, that they'll make it up if they have to.

Morrigan

01-15-2008, 06:36 PM

I suppose you're right about cult shows and their fan base being a big online presence. I mean *looks arouns ST* HELLO, right? ;)

Hey! Watch it now, you're just a voice in someone's head, we can easily take care of you. Don't make me get the pygmies :razz:

Yeah, I'm sure it had something to do with being on a cult show.

Angela

01-15-2008, 09:36 PM

Not all shocked to have the site proven fake.

I am a little shocked to find there are actually 15 real people here though.

Shadow4Corangela

01-15-2008, 10:51 PM

thanks for the confirmation, toj. :)

bigbird811

01-16-2008, 01:11 AM

This reminds me of a 'Jennifer Aniston online blog' thing that happened about an year ago. Ostensibly, there were messages there from Jennifer saying that she's over Brad and the whole thing with Angelina. As soon as people started looking at it with skepticism, it was deleted...There was an outcry from Jen fans and everything...

Y'know, I always wonder whether or not the cast members ever visit the popular fanboards to see what's being said about them. SMG visits one of her fansites (Glamorous-Smg, I think). Could Charisma visit ST?

Bert

01-16-2008, 01:32 PM

Could Charisma visit ST?

Heaven help her if she does - have you seen the type of thing we talk about!?

Morrigan

01-16-2008, 01:45 PM

Heaven help her if she does - have you seen the type of thing we talk about!?

Hopefully she has a sense of humor. :D Although, those doll orgies were pretty freaky.

Emmangel

01-16-2008, 01:53 PM

Don't diss the doll orgies. ;)

Syn

01-18-2008, 12:53 AM

DOLL orgies? The hell, man? And where was my invite? :blah:

Emmangel

01-18-2008, 05:59 AM

You missed those? You were totally around then, so perhaps you've burned the images from your mind? I do believe it was during our younger, drunker days, so perhaps that's it!

Morrigan

01-18-2008, 07:17 AM

Younger, drunker, slightly crazier days of yor :D

I'm sure there's a picture still floating around the forum that someone (more ambitious) to find.

Angela

01-18-2008, 08:25 PM

$10 says Em stashed some on her hard drive that she's carried forward to every computer she's owned since then. C'mon--who'd get rid of shots like those???

(That $10 is in pretend currency of course, especially if Em trashed 'em years ago.)

Emmangel

01-19-2008, 06:11 AM

Sadly, I don't appear too! I saved them onto disk years ago, and when I went to transfer them, the disks were all corrupt and nothing could be retrieved. Sorry!

Typical huh, I save everything else, but lose those!

Freakface

01-19-2008, 09:02 AM

Bryan

01-19-2008, 02:39 PM

Morrigan

01-19-2008, 03:11 PM

Once again, before the thread rolls off the track and into a wall, has Charisma's management team got a hold of her about this website? It is this up, and if anyone going to check the chat scheduled today out of curiosity?

What's the point? The sites been debunked and her managment team has been notified. There's really nothing left to do, so who cares if the thread goes off track? There's no track left to stay on..site=fake chat=fake, time to move on.

Emma - That's so sad, I can't believe the doll orgy photos are gone :( Ah well, at least we have the memories.

samsmom

01-19-2008, 03:20 PM

I don't have the memories, I wanted the photos.

Wah. :bawl:

Freakface

01-19-2008, 03:34 PM

Now this is strange. I just got this "newsletter" and proves that Charisma herself is not running the website by looking at the signature and demeanor. Yet still pushes the video chat and has a video on her MySpace in a couple weeks.

Charisma Carpenter Fans--

Happy New Year! We are here to tell you that we are starting back with sending newsletters again because of the New Year. Charisma Carpenter's website has been updated so you should stop by there and take a look around. Also a chat with Charisma is tomorrow at 5:00 pm central on her website. The link to her website is below and all you have to do is click on the banner below.

Charisma also wants everyone to know that she has been working on a video to say "thanks" to everyone who was really supportive of her through the good, bad, happy, and sad. Check her myspace page on January 27th for the video!

Until Next Week-

--Roni Charisma Carpenter Fan

The newsletter had a lot of photos which is also promoting "Unbreakable" anti-posing team. Take it for what's its worth.

As far as the MySpace, it might be real because the access has been change to invites only. I was able to join before the change. Again take it for what's it worth.

Penny Century

01-19-2008, 04:20 PM

As far as the MySpace, it might be real because the access has been change to invites only.

All that tells me is that the Foiler Family is going LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!11!! Maybe that's just me.

As for pushing the video chat, they pushed the other chat last week, and nothing came of that, either.

If Carrabino Management says it's fake, dude, I'm betting it's fake. You with me?

Bert

01-19-2008, 05:22 PM

Now this is strange. I just got this "newsletter" and proves that Charisma herself is not running the website by looking at the signature and demeanor. Yet still pushes the video chat and has a video on her MySpace in a couple weeks.

The newsletter had a lot of photos which is also promoting "Unbreakable" anti-posing team. Take it for what's its worth.

As far as the MySpace, it might be real because the access has been change to invites only. I was able to join before the change. Again take it for what's it worth.

...

Is it your website?

nikkiwawa

01-19-2008, 06:32 PM

All that tells me is that the Foiler Family is going LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!11!! Maybe that's just me.

As for pushing the video chat, they pushed the other chat last week, and nothing came of that, either.

If Carrabino Management says it's fake, dude, I'm betting it's fake. You with me?

Yeah, I don't think her management would go out of her way to tell us that the website is a fake. I got the newsletter, too. Nothing special. As for Myspace, I deleted the CC and Unbreakable. I felt played after debunking the website, so that only leads to the myspaces being fake, too. The website and myspace pages are all linked. I just checked to see if CC's page is invites only and it isn't. At least not anymore. I don't see why a celebrity would make their "official" page be invites only, anyway.

The site was debunked, so...yeah. There's nothing left.

Clarice

01-19-2008, 07:57 PM

I was just curious to see what they would write today in the chat session, and obviously there is a new day -___-
I have no words :iamsmilin

bigbird811

01-20-2008, 09:31 AM

Her management said that it's fake, so it must be fake. Why would they lie about something like that anyway?

Livvie

01-20-2008, 10:06 AM

I was just curious to see what they would write today in the chat session, and obviously there is a new day -___-

I am curious to see how they are going to pull this out of their butts when we all know by now that the site was a total and complete fake. I am actually going to hang around for this "chat" because well, I figure it will be good for some laughs.

Clarice

01-20-2008, 10:14 AM

I am curious to see how they are going to pull this out of their butts when we all know by now that the site was a total and complete fake. I am actually going to hang around for this "chat" because well, I figure it will be good for some laughs.

We have to laugh if we don't want to cry.

Livvie

01-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Oh, I am thinking this whole thing is hilarious. A couple of kids, thinking they are super cool.

In the latest newsletter, they asked people to email in their stories about finding posers on the web. Oh yeah, you know I emailed them. Told them about some posers running a site called Charisma Carpenter Online and two MySpaces pages about it.

It is just that kind of morning. LOL

Clarice

01-20-2008, 11:13 AM

:°D

However I have to stay up even tonight till 3:00 am(italian time zone) and see.
But...what does it mean "Central time"? LA hour?

Livvie

01-20-2008, 12:46 PM

Central is the middle of the US. Which again, why would you put the time there instead of Pacific Time? (LA)

I think that is about midnight in Italy.

Clarice

01-20-2008, 01:12 PM

Central is the middle of the US. Which again, why would you put the time there instead of Pacific Time? (LA)

I think that is about midnight in Italy.

Yes, if I count the CT here is about midnight, meanwhile with the Pacific Time is about 2:00am...and like you wrote, it's "a little bit" strange put the CT.

Livvie

01-20-2008, 05:33 PM

No big surprise that is 30 minutes after and there is no chat.

I don't know why we didn't do this when CC's management team got back to Tojo but I reported the MySpace profiles for being imposter pages and sent them the text and contact info from Gladys Gonzalez's email. I did the same for Weebly, stressing that these kids are trying to make money off using Charisma's name.

I figure both companies could contact GG directly and she can tell them what is what. I just don't want them to open that store and dupe some people using CC's good name. That just really makes me mad.

Also trying to spread the word as best I can until these sites get closed down.

Morrigan

01-20-2008, 05:52 PM

Hehe go get 'em.

On a mildly curious note, is this considered fraud? If these girls actually dupe people into paying for merchandise and membership can they be prosecuted?

Clarice

01-20-2008, 06:58 PM

Fraud, deceit for profit, false identity, detritment of public image...There are many charges, but I'm not so sure if they could be persecuted for many ones. I'm not so expert in the federal law and the californian law, because the rules on the web are more "flexible"

fiddly

01-21-2008, 11:48 AM

...

Is it your website?

LOL. The new Simon Amstall anyone...

Bert

01-21-2008, 11:59 AM

LOL. The new Simon Amstall anyone...

I LOVE Simon! He's like a real version of Karen Walker...

tojoson

01-21-2008, 11:26 PM

I was just going over some old sites I had saved, and lookie what I found

http://www.freewebs.com/officialcharismacarp/index.htm

Look like something we have seen recently???

Notice, this is from last July.

Either they used this as a template, or it's the same people.

Penny Century

01-21-2008, 11:50 PM

Somebody whose name I can't remember at the moment posted in her LJ about being "hired" by CC to write and edit a magazine called CharismaMail. I know because someone on this board brought the link over. Anyone else remember? (All I remember for sure is that she used a quote from "Go With the Flow" in her LJ header, but I think her username began with a J.)

samsmom

01-22-2008, 01:23 AM

I remember the post here, and I followed the link.

Funny thing, I never heard anything about it after.

Hmm.

Livvie

01-22-2008, 02:05 AM

Well, I got an email back from Weebly.com and they were basically like hey, we let our users do whatever they want. No really, that was the jist of it. They said they won't do anything unless Charisma's people take legal action to get the site taken down. With everything she is going through, I don't see that happening.

Tojo, since you are at least getting emails from Mrs. Gonzalez, do you want to email her back and tell her what I found out? It seems she is going to be the only one to get the sites taken down and she is going to have to do it by threatening legal action.

I haven't heard back from MySpace but I am hoping I get a little better email back from their team.

It is pretty messed up that two teenager girls are posing as her and trying to take people's money. And when I spoke to a lawyer friend, she told me there isn't much that can be done, even if they do get caught. It really just pisses me off to no end.

Penny, I totally remember that too. And when people pressed her for more about it in the comments, she didn't respond to them.

Tojo, it is the same damn website and the same damn people. If you go to the MySpace listed there, the profile has been removed. When you check out the graphics, they go to a photobucket page that is run by an obvious Charmed fan. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/charmedbookofshadows13/

A quick tour of that freewebs site shows the same things as before. Trying to get money, chats that are scheduled and then cancelled, and the email address is the same as the one that the "new" newsletter was sent out from. So it is clear whoever is posing as Charisma for the Weebly site is also posing as her for this freewebs site as well.

What on earth is it going to take to get these two girls to stop this? Honestly.

ETA: Found the LJ girl. She didn't answer any questions or any comments about it: http://www.stranger-things.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21159 There is nothing else on her journal about working for Charisma or producing anything after that entry, unless she f-locked it but considering posts about her losing weight and buying a house aren't locked, don't know why that would be.

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 09:10 AM

And this girl is "known" for writing "fictions," as it were? I smell a Fandom Wank coming on. Perhaps...SHAME will keep these systems in line...! (Although I'm not sure it worked for Victoria Bitter. But it's much harder to scam someone when everyone has your number -- and name[s].)

Thanks for finding that link, Livvie!

ETA: Okay, she lives in Chicago or Chicagoland and is working on a CC magazine from there? Nooooo, I don't think so.

Prima

01-22-2008, 09:31 AM

Morrigan

01-22-2008, 10:21 AM

Oh...F_W Fun :bounce:

Prima

01-22-2008, 10:37 AM

<a href="http://marnanel.org/joule?user=sweetiejen&site=lj&mode=chart">Something happened on the 22nd?</a>

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 10:50 AM

<a href="http://marnanel.org/joule?user=sweetiejen&site=lj&mode=chart">Something happened on the 22nd?</a>

Hm. Is this a case of LERKERZ NO SUPPPPRT ME IN EMALEZ!!11?

Prima

01-22-2008, 10:56 AM

Hm. Is this a case of LERKERZ NO SUPPPPRT ME IN EMALEZ!!11?

Heh. That's what my take on it was. That level of friending/defriending activity strikes me that there was something that caused people to take sides about. Perhaps the validity of claims to be working for Charisma personally? Who knows.

LJ Seek isn't telling me much except that she's been on LJ for awhile but nothing that stinks of flamewars and/or claiming to be BFF with stars or even working for them personally before this.

Emmangel

01-22-2008, 11:02 AM

I dunno, looking at the full view, the last time she or someone checked her stats was march last year, so that's why it looks like such a huge number. I checked my own journal stats, and I've probably had more action in that space of time than here, and there's nothing interesting going on in my LJ.

(I quite fancy a flame war or something, it's been too long).

DamnSkippy

01-22-2008, 11:07 AM

You know, my memory isn't as good as it used to be but oddly enough I remember something back during the days over at the old WB Buffy boards of scheduled chats with the stars...and I think it was a Pseudo!Charisma back then too.

I want to associate that batshite crazy Mnemnosyne (as last seen during the DB ad wank) with that too although I don't think it was her actually doing the chats. Just that she defended that it was possibly true unless proven to be otherwise....until it was so far beyond obvious it wasn't (I vaguely recall free Java based chatrooms), she looked like an even bigger idiot than what she already was.

ETA: This is what I get for not reading back all the way to the beginning. Damn Skippy! You're like my hero! *g*

*blush* Actually, you guys are the heros. You're the ones who put it in my head that it might be fake and that's when I went back to the WB boards and started asking questions. I was pretty naive about chats at the time, and it never occurred to me that someone would pretend to be a celebrity and hold fake chats. So kudos to the combined ST mind for that one. :)

The person, btw, was Menomegirl (if my memory is not failing me) and I believe she is the same person who is the Wed and Thurs editor of the "SU Herald" on LJ. I still get the creeps when her name pops up on my flist. *shivers*

Prima

01-22-2008, 11:15 AM

I dunno, looking at the full view, the last time she or someone checked her stats was march last year, so that's why it looks like such a huge number.

Gotcha. I think it was the daily friending/defriending of 1-2 people back in 2004 that threw me.

That being said, while I don't know them personally, I recognize a couple of the Spuffy folks who friended her in the past. Maybe we can get some insight if she's been full of it in the past or if she was just suckered by folks pretending to work for Charisma offered her a job based on knowing her through her fic or icon making.

Although, I'd think if it was the latter, that post about working for CharismaMail would have been pulled or flocked down as soon as commentary that it was a load was starting to float around.

Emmangel

01-22-2008, 11:18 AM

Wasn't the news posted over on the CC board at FF though? Might still be able to get something from there?

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 11:34 AM

That being said, while I don't know them personally, I recognize a couple of the Spuffy folks who friended her in the past. Maybe we can get some insight if she's been full of it in the past or if she was just suckered by folks pretending to work for Charisma offered her a job based on knowing her through her fic or icon making.

It might be worth asking her personally (maybe through a comment in her most recent post?). If she was hosed by this, too -- and it's not impossible that she was -- it wouldn't be fair for her to get caught in the fallout.

Prima

01-22-2008, 12:30 PM

It might be worth asking her personally (maybe through a comment in her most recent post?). If she was hosed by this, too -- and it's not impossible that she was -- it wouldn't be fair for her to get caught in the fallout.

I don't mind doing it...although, I don't think I'm as well versed on all the stuff that's been found up until this point.

After searching around and just not seeing any drama from her over the 3+ years she's had this particular LJ name, at least none that I'm seeing, my gut instinct says this girl was just approached by these two fools that make up Unbreakable and is still not cynical and burned by the internet and young enough to be taken in.

My guess "a flattery will get you everywhere" plus a "OMG! A star contacted me!" lack of healthy skepticism.

ETA: Done. I'll let you know if I get flamed for being 'OMG!!!1!Meen!!!" and accused of jealousy and being a bitter old hag.

If I do, I expect lip gloss and sparkly pens while I lay on my deathbed.

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 12:53 PM

My guess "a flattery will get you everywhere" plus a "OMG! A star contacted me!" lack of healthy skepticism.

And I'm thinking she might have gotten wise early, hence the lack of followup. I'm going to see if I can find an e-mail address for her and ask for her input privately.

If I do, I expect lip gloss and sparkly pens while I lay on my deathbed.

What, no puffy stickers?

Prima

01-22-2008, 12:57 PM

What, no puffy stickers?

That's only if I produce an ultrasound picture.

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 01:11 PM

That's only if I produce an ultrasound picture.

Got it. Will do.

Thanks for dropping a note, by the way. I'll let y'all know if I make e-mail contact.

Prima

01-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Got it. Will do.

Heh. Well, there was gonna be links and diagrams but the edit function was totally mocking me with it's spinning update arrows.

Just believe me when I say a trip down SVMaria memory lane makes one <strike>thankful it isn't their fandom that's bringing the crazy</strike> weep with mirth and joy.

Thanks for dropping a note, by the way. I'll let y'all know if I make e-mail contact.

Not a problem. I figure either way, it's going to end with the youngin's learning an Afterschool Special lesson about the inherent dangers of the interwebs or ya know, wank.

There's no wrong there.

tojoson

01-22-2008, 01:41 PM

Tojo, since you are at least getting emails from Mrs. Gonzalez, do you want to email her back and tell her what I found out?

Done.

I copied your whole post into the e-mail

I also included a reminder to CC about making C-C.com her Official site, and an invite to just come and hang out there, OR HERE.
and I included our love and good wishes.

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 01:49 PM

Just believe me when I say a trip down SVMaria memory lane makes one <strike>thankful it isn't their fandom that's bringing the crazy</strike> weep with mirth and joy.

Speaking of SVMaria -- and for that matter Victoria Bitter -- isn't it always the wanks that involve, uhhhh, depending upon the <strike>gullibility</strike> kindness of the online geek community that implode the most spectacularly?

Which is why I smell a Fandom Wank right here. You get money AND sockpuppets involved, you get immortalized for All The Wrong Reasons. Dude, if this thing jumps just a leeeeettle higher, you have to help me write it.

ETA: Hehhehhehhehhheh...check out the SVMaria entry (http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/How_Do_You_Solve_A_Problem_Like_SVMaria%3F) at the Fandom Wank Wiki. I'd almost forgotten how jaw-droppingly shameless yet low-rent this entire scam was.

Livvie

01-22-2008, 01:55 PM

Done.

I copied your whole post into the e-mail

I also included a reminder to CC about making C-C.com her Official site, and an invite to just come and hang out there, OR HERE.
and I included our love and good wishes.

Thanks, you are the best. *smooches*

bigbird811

01-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Yes, SVMaria was batshit. But was she anything compared to the Smallville sockpuppet drama that was the 'Lex Mafia'?

(Holy shit, I'm talking wank again...:scared: )

Prima

01-22-2008, 03:04 PM

Yes, SVMaria was batshit. But was she anything compared to the Smallville sockpuppet drama that was the 'Lex Mafia'?

I'd have used that allegory but no one has turned me down lately when I asked them to marry me.

...and Victoria Bitter is stilll my favorite Fandom Wank of all time since I knew her when she was just a fledgling wanker in ST: Voyager fandom.

Which I think makes me officially old. Or something.

Which is why I smell a Fandom Wank right here. You get money AND sockpuppets involved, you get immortalized for All The Wrong Reasons. Dude, if this thing jumps just a leeeeettle higher, you have to help me write it.

Oh absolutely! It's been a long time since those heady Angel/Mrs. Fields/Bus/Shemale days. I've been getting soft.

Speaking of which, have we ever had wank less than six degrees in this fandom before? Not Ducks related, I mean.

Penny Century

01-22-2008, 03:17 PM

...and Victoria Bitter is stilll my favorite Fandom Wank of all time since I knew her when she was just a fledgling wanker in ST: Voyager fandom.

Victoria Bitter has to be one of the meatiest wanks in history. (So...much...wrongness....) CrystalWank -- a.k.a. One Wank to Rule Them All -- seems like 30 percent wank, 70 percent hot gas in comparison. Although that same hot-gas coefficient, i.e. the fact that Crystal probably created at least half the follow-on wank herself, was worth bonus points.

Speaking of which, have we ever had wank less than six degrees in this fandom before? Not Ducks related, I mean.

A former poster, who actually was very popular on the board as a fic writer, once decided that the Grammar Help thread in Fanfiction Help/Recommendations was OMG!hurtfulz! and all about MEAN GURLZ HARSHIN ON PEEPUL WHO R JUST HAVIN FUNZ0RS! and decided to stick it to The Man by posting a wank about it. It got about 8 responses -- at least half of which were of the "You're kidding, right?" variety -- before it was neglected to death.

fiddly

01-22-2008, 06:09 PM

I LOVE Simon! He's like a real version of Karen Walker...

Hey, who doesn't? Can't help but think he's mellowed recently...trying to be a bit more Jonathon Ross than himself!!!

Livvie

01-22-2008, 06:15 PM

Penny, not sure if I should ask this in a PM but figured I would go for it here but maybe we could do a post in General and ask people to remember their favorite wanks? Or "scandals" in fandom? I mean, as long as people are giving links to f_w and such, that is cool?

It might just be a stupid idea but I am one of those that loves reading wank and f_w and I missed so much coming into the fandom so late.

samsmom

01-22-2008, 07:52 PM

Penny, can I ask who that was, the fic writer with a thing against grammar? I think I know who it was, but I want to be sure.

bigbird811

01-22-2008, 09:59 PM

I'd have used that allegory but no one has turned me down lately when I asked them to marry me.

Oh, no, I was just saying that SVMaria is a bit tame (albeit shameless) compared to the 'Lex Mafia' drama. Plus, the girl who did all of that is also a part of BtVS/Angel fandom (which makes me quite afraid, I guess, since I also belong to Smallville fandom :blah: )

Which I think makes me officially old. Or something.

Yes, but the Elder Ones get to rule the newbies with an iron first :D...<strike>I know I've just gotten myself into trouble somehow o_O</strike>

It might just be a stupid idea but I am one of those that loves reading wank and f_w and I missed so much coming into the fandom so late.

No, it's a brilliant idea! :D I'm also one of those people who visit F_W for the pure fun of it! And I love the smell of wank in the morning.

Prima

01-23-2008, 08:44 AM

A former poster, who actually was very popular on the board as a fic writer.... decided to stick it to The Man by posting a wank about it. It got about 8 responses -- at least half of which were of the "You're kidding, right?" variety -- before it was neglected to death.

Oh yeah. I vaguely remember that (read: Here not at F_W).

Wasn't she also the one who'd get testy when folks added the (ew!) to Shipper(ew!)?

And back to the controversy, I heard back from the LJ person and it looks like she was suckered in as well. I'll try to get permission from her to post what she told me about the original email she received.

Penny Century

01-23-2008, 09:07 AM

Wasn't she also the one who'd get testy when folks added the (ew!) to Shipper(ew!)?

Indeed. Although, at the real risk of mistaking this for being ALL ABOUT ME!!11!, it only seemed to bug her after she decided she didn't like me personally, because I'm the one who persisted in saying it year after year (and for years before she joined up). Maybe it bugged her before, but it just reeeaaally bugged her after that.

And back to the controversy, I heard back from the LJ person and it looks like she was suckered in as well. I'll try to get permission from her to post what she told me about the original email she received.

It sounds horrible to say "good," but it kind of...is. If she can help get the word out before a bunch of suckas get locked into 15 bucks a month for nothing, that would be awesome.

ETA: By the way, feel free to start a Fandom Wank thread in General and discuss your F_W faves. As long as no one tries to bring a personal fight from that venue or any other into this one -- which, let's face it, is pretty wankity in itself -- I don't see a problem. But I'll let you know if I do. :D

Prima

01-23-2008, 10:08 AM

Although, at the real risk of mistaking this for being ALL ABOUT ME!!11!, it only seemed to bug her after she decided she didn't like me personally, because I'm the one who persisted in saying it year after year (and for years before she joined up). Maybe it bugged her before, but it just reeeaaally bugged her after that.

Hee!

It sounds horrible to say "good," but it kind of...is. If she can help get the word out before a bunch of suckas get locked into 15 bucks a month for nothing, that would be awesome.

Yeah. As much as I love some epic wank, I hate to see the truly innocent screwed.

I like the schadenfreude just deserved, ya know?

That being said, I get the feeling after the damage control scrambling about "posers" on the MySpace account, the potential is still high.

Penny Century

01-23-2008, 10:45 AM

Yeah. As much as I love some epic wank, I hate to see the truly innocent screwed.

I like the schadenfreude just deserved, ya know?

What will really be interesting is to see how their CC sockpuppet responds, or chooses not to. If someone with a misfortunately acquired inside knowledge of how they work comes forward, that's pretty deadly to the whole shebang. That's usually when the wank starts.

Freakface and I both have friended the FauxSpace account -- where, it should be noted, one of the few "update" bulletins has been essentially nothing more than a plug for some girl named Bethany's website -- so I'll make it a point to share info from that if it pertains.

Which reminds me...I'd better get some screenshots. I sense a deletion in the future.

That being said, I get the feeling after the damage control scrambling about "posers" on the MySpace account, the potential is still high.

Yeah, you said it better!

Freakface

01-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Freakface and I both have friended the FauxSpace account --
Hey Penny, thanks for outing me. Now I can't monitor it in the closet. :9mm:

Penny Century

01-23-2008, 04:36 PM

Hey Penny, thanks for outing me. Now I can't monitor it in the closet. :9mm:

Of course you can. You've posted there anyway, right? And you've already mentioned having friended the profile, in this thread.

Freakface

01-23-2008, 04:42 PM

Of course you can. You've posted there anyway, right? And you've already mentioned having friended the profile, in this thread.
I am officially not a friend of this MySpace profile. >But unofficially, I am keeping my eye on it, like Solid Snake creeping through the halls.<

Livvie

01-23-2008, 06:09 PM

Well, I heard back from MySpace and got what I can only describe as the strangest email ever from them. They want me to take a picture of myself and sign a piece of people with MySpace written on it. So yeah...I am going to contact them again because it seems like an automated response or something.

I am hoping Mrs. Gonzalez is having an easier time of getting these sites taken down than I am. You'd think the MySpace and Weebly people would want to avoid a lawsuit and I don't know, pick the phone up and call Mrs. Gonazalez. Guess not.

SamIAm

01-23-2008, 06:17 PM

...and sign a piece of people...

Okay, I laughed uproariously.

Prima

01-23-2008, 06:42 PM

Okay, I laughed uproariously.

Hey! Livvie said it was "the strangest email ever from them"!

Lovin' Lorne

01-23-2008, 07:30 PM

Okay, I laughed uproariously.

Me too!

I haven't wandered through this thread for the past couple of days, and wow, a lot's been going on. Next time I shan't stay away so long.

And I felt a bit sorry for that girl who was (apparently) duped as well. Ah, to be that young and full of wonder again...

Livvie

01-23-2008, 08:14 PM

Okay, I laughed uproariously.

I swear to god. That is why I thought it was automated or something. I was like what? I did tell them about the typo in my reply back.

And now I got another email back. I cannot believe what they make people go through to get imposter sites taken down. No wonder no one does it.

Hello,
We need a salute from Ms. Carpenter to shut down a site with her image to verify that she has requested this. Once we get the salute we will shut down the site and any other site that she requests impersonating her. If she doesnt have a myspace page she should only put the email that is being used.

tojoson

01-24-2008, 11:24 AM

I'm putting this in various threads to catch more people.

A REMINDER

Watch CC on 'Big Shots' tonight.

It's the last (???) show.

If you miss it, then
"Luucee, you got some splainin to do"

Prima

01-24-2008, 01:30 PM

And now I got another email back. I cannot believe what they make people go through to get imposter sites taken down. No wonder no one does it.

Well, I don't begrudge them for wanting to be sure. This is the internet. Petty vengence rules supreme.

Hello,
We need a salute from Ms. Carpenter to shut down a site with her image to verify that she has requested this. Once we get the salute we will shut down the site...

Okay, I gotta ask...salute? Is this a MySpace urban dictionary kind of thing or another Engrish choice?

Livvie

01-24-2008, 02:15 PM

It is MySpace-speak. This is what they define as a "salute"

To create a salute, please do the following:

Create a hand-written sign that says "MySpace.com" and your Friend ID. Your friend ID is the number between "ID=" and "&mytoken", in your profile's URL.

Get an image, or digital picture of yourself with this hand-written sign.

This image is the salute. Next, reply to this e-mail with the salute as an e-mail attachment, or as an e-mail link to where it is uploaded.

We will then e-mail the account information that you entered for that page.

Please understand that a salute is our only reliable means to verify identity. Without a salute, we unfortunately cannot grant your request.

Finally, once a salute is reviewed and your identity is verified, we will proceed with your request.

Bert

01-24-2008, 03:10 PM

So - what? They want Charisma to sign a piece of people with MySpace.Com written on it AND her Friend ID - before they even shut down this fraudster? Regardless of the fact that CC may not have a Friend ID?

I have the feeling that a kick up the ass from her lawyers, may be just as suitable a salute.

Lovin' Lorne

01-24-2008, 03:49 PM

I have the feeling that a kick up the ass from her lawyers, may be just as suitable a salute.

I was just about to say the same thing, Bert. I'd be willing to bet that a lawsuit trumps a salute any day.

Prima

01-24-2008, 04:24 PM

While I get the reasoning behind the proof, I'm somewhat amused that you have to send them a picture of yourself holding a sign with your ID on it and that they define this as a salute.

I can tell you what kind of "salute" I'd be sending them if I had to jump through hoops to do this.

DamnSkippy

01-24-2008, 04:59 PM

Is any of that salute crap required to *open* a myspace page? And if it's not *her* page, how does she get the ID number or WTF it is? Would she have to create a myspace account and then friend the fraudulent account to see it? (Obviously, I'm not a myspacer, so that may be a really stupid question.)

Livvie

01-26-2008, 11:54 PM

I've been checking every few days to see if the site was shut down yet and this was up now.

Thanks for a wonderful chat, I am so glad that you had the opportunity of chatting with me and vise versa. I am sorry about the past mix-ups with the chat dates but it all worked out in the end. The next chat is below and I am already excited.

I guess that by saying that, they think that people will fail to notice there was no chat. I was at the page for an hour and nothing. They are also planning to open the store on the 30th.

I know I must seem like a crazy but this is really pissing me off. I hate the idea that two kids (because they posted their names at the end of the Unbreakable link L. Tanner and F. Wilson) are posing as a celebrity and are trying to dupe people out of their hard earned cash.

I am just getting frustrated that everything we do to get this site shut down isn't working.

Lovin' Lorne

01-27-2008, 12:15 AM

I've been checking every few days to see if the site was shut down yet and this was up now.

I guess that by saying that, they think that people will fail to notice there was no chat. I was at the page for an hour and nothing. They are also planning to open the store on the 30th.

I know I must seem like a crazy but this is really pissing me off. I hate the idea that two kids (because they posted their names at the end of the Unbreakable link L. Tanner and F. Wilson) are posing as a celebrity and are trying to dupe people out of their hard earned cash.

I am just getting frustrated that everything we do to get this site shut down isn't working.

I know nothing about MySpace, but can't someone who is a friend of that site post on it? Like in the comments section on LJ or anything? If so, I'd just keep posting over and over that the site is a fake along with the letter from CC's reps? Or at least that CC's people are in the process of getting it shut down for fraud? Cause if people give these twits money, they are guilty of fraud, which could mean jail time. Think that might scare the two kids?

Livvie

01-27-2008, 12:22 AM

I know nothing about MySpace, but can't someone who is a friend of that site post on it? Like in the comments section on LJ or anything? If so, I'd just keep posting over and over that the site is a fake along with the letter from CC's reps? Or at least that CC's people are in the process of getting it shut down for fraud? Cause if people give these twits money, they are guilty of fraud, which could mean jail time. Think that might scare the two kids?

I've actually put together a post on my LJ that goes through all the evidence we've all gathered during this time. I got it linked on a rec comm but I am seriously considering hitting some Cordy, CC, and ATS comms on LJ to let people know it is a fake.

But I think those that have the MySpace friended should do just that. The email I sent to them letting them know that we know their site is a fake just seemed to inspire them to lie further.

And I did a people search for Lyssa Tanner and Fred Wilson. Nothing on Lyssa Tanner. And I doubt the Fred Wilson I found is the same kid (unless she is an African American artist, a Canadian politician, or a venture capitalist)

Right now I am taking screenshots of the site as it is now and that old freewebs site that ToJo found. I figure if they tried it twice, they might try it a third time.

Lovin' Lorne

01-27-2008, 12:29 AM

Right now I am taking screenshots of the site as it is now and that old freewebs site that ToJo found. I figure if they tried it twice, they might try it a third time.

Good idea. Some people just have no shame.

So who here can hit the MySpacer's with the fraud posts? I don't have an account, so it can't be me.

Bert

01-27-2008, 03:58 AM

unless she is an African American artist, a Canadian politician, or a venture capitalist

I'm gonna go with B) Canadian Politician.

Livvie

01-27-2008, 11:00 AM

I'm gonna go with B) Canadian Politician.

There is a reason we went to war with them in the South Park movie. It was a warning. A WARNING I TELLS YA!

Damn beady eyed, flappy headed, "aboot" saying, Celine Dion lovin' papercuts!

Clarice

01-27-2008, 12:05 PM

LOL

I've been checking every few days to see if the site was shut down yet and this was up now.

Quote:
Thanks for a wonderful chat, I am so glad that you had the opportunity of chatting with me and vise versa. I am sorry about the past mix-ups with the chat dates but it all worked out in the end. The next chat is below and I am already excited.
I guess that by saying that, they think that people will fail to notice there was no chat. I was at the page for an hour and nothing. They are also planning to open the store on the 30th.

-____- I was checking the site too but not yesterday because I was too tired and a little trunk :razz:, and today I discover there was the fake chat. :/

I know I must seem like a crazy but this is really pissing me off. I hate the idea that two kids (because they posted their names at the end of the Unbreakable link L. Tanner and F. Wilson) are posing as a celebrity and are trying to dupe people out of their hard earned cash.

Here with you. And they are decring her name. :poed:

Livvie

01-27-2008, 12:20 PM

Prima

01-27-2008, 06:01 PM

I made a LJ post (http://xlivvielockex.livejournal.com/70142.html) about everything that has gone on, all the evidence we've gotten, etc. If there is anything anyone thinks I left out, please let me know. I am going to start pimping this post to LJ comms tomorrow.

I saw that SweetieJen posted in your LJ with some more info.

Speaking of which, did you see <a href="http://www.slayalive.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=entrance&thread=1188140553&page=2">this discussion</a>? It looks like "Dez" has been playing more than just Charisma.

I'm doing more digging on this "Dez" because they've left a veritable trail everywhere on this CharmedBookofShadows13 nom de plume.

ETA: :
The early years. <a href="http://www.teenhollywood.com/boards/celebrity-fan-boards/thread/705/66517/1/jesse-chat-please-look-here.html">Trying to get Jesse McCartney to chat.</a>.

<a href="http://www.teenmusic.com/boards/music-fan-boards/thread/681/257074/1/ashlee-simpson-fan-club--.html">Ashley Simpson is a member too!</a>.

I don't know who this is but the photobucket account shows up here: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/amandakaletskystreetteam">Amanda Kaletsky Street Team</a> and "Dez" signs the message there.

What's weird about all this is the first two profiles associated points to someone who is a teenager who lives in Colorado (<a href="http://www.teenmusic.com/member.asp?m=charmed08">Charmed08 lists 16 years of age in '06</a> but <a href="http://www.teenhollywood.com/member.asp?m=Charmed01">Charmed01 lists them at age 17 in '05</a>) the <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=141129575">mySpace associated with a Dez in Colorado says 22</a> but what's even weirder/creepier is that <a href="http://www.classmates.com/profile/user/view/photos?registrationId=8689715129#profileMain">a little more digging points to a person in their early thirties</a> (aside: You have to be logged into Classmates to see the profile).

ETA2: I can't tell if <a href="http://www.phoneimage.com/dlp_prof_fr.php?i_pui=222826">this one</a> is saying she is this actress or if she's just giving some biography information just based on the image. Just vague enough to play it either way perhaps?

ETA3: <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15779074829987767050">Dez pretending to be this singer</a>?

Livvie

01-27-2008, 07:02 PM

PRIMA I LOVE YOU!

Holy crap, have my internet love babies! This is so awesome.

SweetieJen said she would send me the IPs. I am putting together a huge packet of info to FedEx to ALL of Charisma's people. I want to nail this chick to the wall so bad, it isn't even funny.

It isn't just Charisma. I think it is incredibly messed up to pose as ANYONE on the internet. A little personal info, my cousin was taken for a ride by a 19 year old girl posing as a 20something man on the net. She sent this girl over $3000 because she believed they were in a relationship and she was helping out her boyfriend. Two weeks before they were suppose to met each other and live together, she got a letter that the girl was lying to her the whole time. She had no remorse at all for it.

Needless to say my cousin, who was already in a fragile mental state, didn't take the news well. She got a lawyer involved but since my cousin was giving the money as gifts without ever meeting this person, they can't do much about getting her money back.

TMI I know but it sucks because I don't want some unsuspecting new fan to turn over $150 to this loser.

Livvie

01-27-2008, 09:50 PM

SweetieJen has sent me the emails back and forth between her and "Charisma". I have asked Shalazar over at C-C.com to confirm the email address given is not associated with CC or her people. It is: charismacarpenteronline@gmail.com

Also in the emails, it gives the MySpace and email of this Dez Yarbrough person.

MySpace (http://myspace.com/dezyarbrough_rocks08) and her email is ummdez.cracksmeup@gmail.com

As if we needed more proof, she is listed as 15 and living in COLORADO. I am sure Charisma would employ a 15 year old who doesn't even live in LA (That was my sarcasm voice)

Though, as of right now, this minute, I believe that this is ONE thirty something year old woman with a serious serious problem. She seems to like playing pretend and my money is that none of the MySpace pages (For Dez, Lyssa, or Fred) are real.

nikkiwawa

01-27-2008, 09:58 PM

Livvie

01-27-2008, 10:29 PM

omg that email address is from the debunked site!!!! SweetieJen DEFINITELY got played.

In the newsletters sent to the emails if you signed up for the newsletter. that charismacarpenteronline@gmail.com is the one to contact CC, directly.

Wow...

SweetieJen is having trouble getting me the headers with the originating IPs on it. I am looking at another solution. But I am getting paranoid so I am not going to mention it here, in case this person has gotten wise and joined up.

Penny Century

01-27-2008, 10:52 PM

SweetieJen is having trouble getting me the headers with the originating IPs on it. I am looking at another solution. But I am getting paranoid so I am not going to mention it here, in case this person has gotten wise and joined up.

Livvie, when you get IP numbers, PM them to me. I can check the logs.

Livvie

01-27-2008, 11:49 PM

Livvie, when you get IP numbers, PM them to me. I can check the logs.

Thanks Penny. You've been so awesome about this, letting us post what we find when we find it. I really appreciate it. I will so send you those as soon as I get them. :)

Angelsgirl1211

01-28-2008, 06:40 PM

Thought you all would like to see this.....

From Whedon.info - By Webmaster - 2008-01-28
Charisma Carpenter - Troubles with False Myspace.com Pages & Official Websites
Charisma Carpenter as Cordelia Chase on Buffy & Angel

Someone is trying to pass themselves off as Charisma Carpenter through this site as well as two MySpace pages. (here and here)

THESE SITES ARE FAKES!

As far as we can tell, they are run by two teenage girls, one teenage girl, or one thirty year old woman posing as everyone. On the Charisma Carpenter Online site, they are trying to open a store as well as run a fanclub that would cost people $150/yr. Please, let people know about these fakes before it gets worse.

This is not the first time they have done this. It appears they have posed as Nick Brendon, Julie Benz, Alyson Hannigan, one Charmed actress, Bethany Joy Lenz, Jesse McCartney and Ashlee Simpson. If you have ANY information about someone posing as these people or any information at all, please don’t hesitate to contact via a reply to this post or the linked evidence post. Fandom has always been a fantastic thing and I am hoping we can all come together to get this person stopped.

All the evidence including email from Charisma’s Management Team

Lovin' Lorne

01-29-2008, 12:57 AM

That's great! I'd imagine a lot of people there can help to spread the news as well. :bounce:

Freakface

01-29-2008, 04:46 AM

I think the grassroots movement worked because the site is down. The MySpace profile however is still there.

Bryan

01-29-2008, 07:05 AM

Well done to all those who worked to make this happen:thumbsup:

Livvie

01-29-2008, 08:50 AM

I think the grassroots movement worked because the site is down. The MySpace profile however is still there.

I am keeping my eye out just in case they put a site up on that AOL domain. I've got all the screenshots from both the freewebs site and the weebly site just in case they try this again.

Considering what has to be done to get the MySpace page taken down, it might be a while. I am sure CC has better things to do with her time than take a picture of herself holding a sign that says MySpace.

starlet2367

01-29-2008, 01:48 PM

I get a newsfeed for CC daily, and a note similar to the one on whedon.info popped up on two additional sites today. Looks like the info's making the rounds. Good work, everyone!

nikkiwawa

01-29-2008, 02:29 PM

I must say, this made me happy. And, thanks starlet for the extra info. Sounds like it's making the rounds, indeed :D

Clarice

01-29-2008, 02:55 PM

Good work. Thank you *__*

Lovin' Lorne

01-29-2008, 03:05 PM

Does anyone know if Slayerverse has been notified? I can do that if no one has.

Livvie

01-29-2008, 03:21 PM

Does anyone know if Slayerverse has been notified? I can do that if no one has.

I haven't done it so if you could, LL, that would be so fabulous of you.

I did contact Whedon.info and within less than an hour, it was up. So props to them for being so fast.

Lovin' Lorne

01-29-2008, 03:37 PM

Got it! :trot:

Shadow4Corangela

01-29-2008, 06:28 PM

Wow, that was fast!! Ya'll are good. :)

Freakface

01-31-2008, 04:45 AM

I guess mission has accomplished, because both the MySpace page and the Unbreakable MySpace page are gone.

Morrigan

01-31-2008, 07:25 AM

nice job people :beer:

Lysa

01-31-2008, 08:15 AM

Congrats! Your hard work & dedication paid off. CC is lucky to have loyal fans that are looking out for her.

Livvie

01-31-2008, 11:21 AM

I guess mission has accomplished, because both the MySpace page and the Unbreakable MySpace page are gone.

Now bring on the margaritas and the dancing ladies! WOOO!

Lovin' Lorne

01-31-2008, 11:33 AM

Now bring on the margaritas and the dancing ladies! WOOO!

:beer: :dance:

This is the best I could do! You are to be commended, Livvie. I have never seen such dedication. CC's management co. should offer you a job as fraud buster!

starlet2367

01-31-2008, 12:14 PM

<a href=http://community.livejournal.com/forbiddenawards/>Forbidden Awards</a> just noted the info and commended Livvie on her hard work. :D

Livvie

01-31-2008, 01:21 PM

Seriously, if Tojo hadn't contacted her management company, Prima hadn't done all that digging, Shalazar hadn't made the post about why he thought it was fake, and SweetieJen didn't forward me those emails, this wouldn't have happened. I just put it all into one place and pimped the hell out of it.

Everyone here at ST was a HUGE help. Penny let us let this thread continue with new info. People voiced their concerns. And honestly, without ST, I don't think we would have gotten those sites shut down.

So...back to the margaritas and the dancing ladies! WEEE!

nikkiwawa

01-31-2008, 02:47 PM

Yup, there's a BIG RED X on the FORMER Unbreakable on my myspace flist. LOL

Livvie, you did some awesome work, darling :) The chick went completely down, and I hope she has learned her lesson. She picked the wrong actress. Boy, I bet she didn't know how dedicated CC's fans were to getting every fake "official" CC related sites, shut down. Now, she knows...

Back to dancing with my margarita :beer:

ETA: uh oh...there's still teo myspace pages up. The Charisma Store (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=218153738)(but no one has been logged in since 11/07) and the supposedly real Charisma Carpenter (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=201782839) personal page that's friends only. That personal site was linked to Unbreakable and the CC fans online myspace pages. Just a FYI

Shadow4Corangela

02-01-2008, 09:46 AM

Kelly hun..you did a MARVELOUS job..you put all the things together and that must have taken a lot of time..so you did do a lot of work..thanks to the others as well. :)

The chick went completely down, and I hope she has learned her lesson. She picked the wrong actress. Boy, I bet she didn't know how dedicated CC's fans were to getting every fake "official" CC related sites, shut down. Now, she knows...
yes she did!! don't mess with CC or her Strangers!! ;)

Morrigan

02-01-2008, 09:47 AM

Remind me never to get on your badside, you people are relentless and resourceful.

Now, will someone please pass the salt? I need a margarita.

v120176

02-01-2008, 10:23 AM

Remind me never to get on your badside, you people are relentless and resourceful.

See!!!! The Bangels were right at the WB board: CC/Cordy's fans cancelled ATS ;)

Emmangel

02-01-2008, 11:53 AM

Of course we did! (though they didn't like me wearing the t-shirt to that affect at Dragon*Con!)

Also, though I don't have the doll pictures, I did find some of one of the dolls sitting all innocent like. That's... a start right?

Shadow4Corangela

02-01-2008, 12:08 PM

Of course we did! (though they didn't like me wearing the t-shirt to that affect at Dragon*Con!)
Wow, I'm not that brave! But hey we strangers are anything but quiet. ;)

Bert

02-01-2008, 12:46 PM

See!!!! The Bangels were right at the WB board: CC/Cordy's fans cancelled ATS ;)

And Firefly - but that was just for the hell of it. :9mm:

Clarice

02-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Livvie

02-03-2008, 01:07 PM

So this caught my eye today because I am totally paranoid now. It was on a few LJ communities.

"Sweet Charisma,the new and only Charisma Carpenter fansite on the net is being launched in just over a week thanks to fan-sites.org for the hosting.

However i need a coweb to help me out,especially with the gallery.

if your interested please email ccarquette@aol.com with subject 'sweet charisma'

basic knowledge is needed,i can run you through the rest.

thank you"

It was posted by this person (http://xwant2bperfectx.livejournal.com/) and their journal is kind of blank. I am actually going to reply to the one of the posts and kindly suggest that there are other fansites for CC out there including but not limited to C-C.com and ST.

It just is setting off alarms for me, that's all. If anyone knows anything?

nikkiwawa

02-03-2008, 01:13 PM

Didn't clicking to her site, give you the shivers when you saw the Charmed banner? lol I thought the same thing. But, I think it's just a fansite. Of course, we'll have our eyes on it, just in case :)

Freakface

02-03-2008, 01:16 PM

Livvie

02-03-2008, 01:20 PM

nikkiwawa

02-03-2008, 01:22 PM

I'm with you, all the way, sweets :D Even if it's just us two.

Freakface

02-03-2008, 01:25 PM

Well, it isn't helping the paranoia when I checked the fansites hosting and you can auction off items and such.

She replied back to me and told me when she searched, she didn't find any Charisma sites. That gave me a big "what the fu..." because how I found sites like Charisma Central and C-C.com was googling Charisma Carpenter.

Yes, it is paranoia but after what happened this past month, I think we should keep it on the radar just in case.
Some vigilance is good and healthy... but again, being the optimist that I am, let's wait and see what the site offers... who knows, this site might become another conduit of legit info like C-C.com, Charisma Central, Slayerverse.org, and FanForum.com.

Prima

02-03-2008, 03:09 PM

I am actually going to reply to the one of the posts and kindly suggest that there are other fansites for CC out there including but not limited to C-C.com and ST.

It just is setting off alarms for me, that's all. If anyone knows anything?

I looked at it and my guess is that this person is just young/not particularly fandom saavy as opposed to being up to no good.

That being said, I don't think it would hurt to keep an eye open since the only other evidence I find of her on the internet is starting fansites (ie. <a href="http://hollyoaks-fan.livejournal.com/profile">Holly Oaks</a> and <a href="http://orangecounty.forumco.com/">Orange County Forums</a>) that don't seem to go anywhere or ever happen.

And hey! If anyone ever needs me to go digging, I'm happy to help. *g*