Charisma Carpenter as Wonder Woman

[kyle]

this was already brought up in The Cordyverse under TV Guide's online CC interview, but i think it deserves it's own spot over here as it is mainly to do with Charisma, and i'm very curious to see what other people think; how she might be best suited for the role as Wonder Woman, or if perhaps there is another candidate that outshines (impossible, right?) the wonderful miss Charisma.

i've also posted this topic in the Internet Movie Database forum to see how they react, and after glancing at things they've said of other possible choices.. i do feel Chrisma has a great shot at accomplishing her mission.

the interview - http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/040205a.asp

the imdb - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074074/board/nest/2464948

Wonder Woman - http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1179/5896-2.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Carter,%20Lynda

Charisma - http://www.charisma-carpenter.com/cgi-bin/show/show.cgi?696

and hello to everyone, i'm new here.. won't have time to post much, just wanted to bring that together and express my appreciation for her; the lovely and talented Charisma Carpenter.

congratulations on the Hollywood Reporter ad,

-kyle

[LittleAngel]

I agree the new wonder woman should be an Unknown, sweet, beautiful, with charisma.

Who has more charisma than Charisma herself?

I can see why everyone would want Catherine Zeta-Jones but I believe an unknown would be better for the role.

ETA-Welcome to the board kyle.:D

[Penny Century]

Welcome to the board, Kyle!

And thanks for the links. Many of us submitted CC's name to the WW site as possible casting, but now is a good time to start spreading the word again. It's especially good to know that Charisma is interested in pursuing this role; I think she'd be ideal.

[shar]

i was watching sky news today and they said how two buffy babes are competeing for the wonder woman role.
according to them smg is the top contender but they have a quote from an insider saing that cc has a good chance and is just as sexy.
i really hope cc gets it i think she would be great.

[kyle]

yeah i've seen that elsewhere, about Sarah Michelle Gellar being interested in the role.. or has been mentioned for it, but i don't think she looks the part at all.. and might not be able to act it completely either.

Penny Century, what's this WW site for casting? got a url?

also, i wanted to let everyone know that i've added another remark in favor of Charisma on IMDB. hopefully some others on that site will say what they think.. and maybe it would be good to point other sites to there + this thread on here? to give the Charisma vote some attention.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074074/board/nest/2464948

if the movie is done exceptionally well, this would be great for Charisma, and the fans. if the movie script looks too flashy and full of non-sense, hopefully Charisma turns it down if she feels it doesnt portray the character + her in a good way.

let's hope Hollywood does good with this one.

-kyle

[arkady]

SMG?! No freakin' way she's too short. Plus she doesn't have the physical attributes to be WW. Jesus! She's an Amazon! Not a goddamn midget.

You know I was talking about this with a few of the guys at work today and none of them could accept that CC is the perfect WW. They all suggested Jennifer Connelly. Go figure?! I put her in the same boat as SMG. I mean she's got the hair, eyes and stature but not the rest. And while she's a wonderful actress I personally just can't see her in the role. CC on the other hand I can totally see as WW. She can pull off that whole ice queen persona but with a heart underneath.

[Emmangel]

Originally posted by shar
i was watching sky news today and they said how two buffy babes are competeing for the wonder woman role.
according to them smg is the top contender but they have a quote from an insider saing that cc has a good chance and is just as sexy.
i really hope cc gets it i think she would be great.
Really? That's intresting news, thanks for sharing.

[Morrigan]

I so can't see SMg or even Jennifer Connly as WW, they're too petite. LL would ahve been the best choice or if you really want to go with some of the artwork, Chyna from WWE would fit her physically.

However the mvies don't really stick to the comics. If they did Cyclops would have been as old or older then Jean Grey and Wovlerine would have been about as tall as SMG.

I think CC could pull off the physical aspects as well as the emotion and humor that comes with Diana.

[Penny Century]

Originally posted by Morrigan
I think CC could pull off the physical aspects as well as the emotion and humor that comes with Diana.
Exactly. There are other actresses who fit the bill physically, but I can't think of another who could pull off both the humor and poignancy of Diana's shelteredness, her weird innocence of the culture in which she finds herself. I've hoped CC would get a chance to read for this part for several months, but now I'm practically pinning my hopes on her getting it.

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Morrigan
\LL would ahve been the best choice or if you really want to go with some of the artwork, [...] Since LL already gave a big yet polite "NO" to the idea, Charisma's chances just went up. ;)

I think the fact that there has been a lot of press around that one quote from Charisma is telling. Hopefully someone is paying attention...

[tojoson]

you should at least physically resemble the character you are playing, and SMG does not.

it's like having talisa soto as vampirella, to me it just didn't work.
compared to the character, talisa was sort of flat chested.

wonder woman is buxom, SMG is not, and neuther is sandra bullock, (who was associated with the part for a while.

as far as her height, they don't really need a tall actress, just have the men take the lifts out of their shoes, and build her's up some.

i think CC would be a very good choice

incidentally, on a slightly related subject, the latest dreamwatch magesine says that natalie portman is in talks to play lois lane.

and earlier this week, over at C-C.com someone posted a list of possible fall shows and one struck me as good for CC, about a recent law school graduate who becomes a judge in a small town--a comedy. can you imagine what CC could do with that

[brahmsviolin]

Just the fact that CC herself would like to play the role has increased my hopes. Let's face it, we've all got ideas on what we'd like to see her do, including WW. Now that she's expressed an interest, I'm anxious for her to have a shot. I'll be really surprised if she isn't even considered, and with LL out of the running, I think she's got a very good shot at getting it.

[Freakface]

Here's a small brurb on the Wonder Woman movie...

Buffy Stars Catfight Over Wonder Woman Role (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-12987170,00.html)

:bounce: :roll:

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Freakface
Here's a small brurb on the Wonder Woman movie...

Buffy Stars Catfight Over Wonder Woman Role (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-12987170,00.html)

:bounce: :roll: ETA: I got it!

And while I like SMG, she is in no way Wonder Woman. She does NOT scream Wonder Woman.

<img src= "http://www.guiadelcomic.com/autores/pix/jimenez/wonder-woman-poster.jpg">

But the sad thing is that SMG would probably get it because she's more known than Charisma.

ETA2: I'm not sure who would do better in a campy film, though. Charisma could pull it off, but I would be afraid SMG would play it too seriously. I'm shutting up now.

[v120176]

I wonder if the Play-Boy photos could have something to do with Wonder woman role? Maybe her manager told her that she will catch more attention (yes, I agree with Lala, SMG is more known than Charisma, and maybe some photos and a Play Boy Cover could help her on this) and shows how well she is after her pregnancy.

I agree, SMG will play somekind of anorexic WW. I never liked SMG as an actress (my opinion). I never knew why they choose her as Buffy (even if they didn't gave the part to CC). But also I said the same with DB on BTVS, the only two "bad performances" of the show, and now he's a great actor (since ATS season 2 specially). SMG has no angel : Cruel Intentions, I'm still recovering of that & that romantic comedy where she played a cheff.... no words.., for terror movies, Ok, but for any others, at least from what I saw, included her SNL performance, were horrible.

V.

[LaLa247]

I think we can discuss this without bashing SMG.

SMG is a good actress, in my opinion, but she's not Wonder Woman. This also goes the way of typecasting (the main reason why LL rejected the role), and I thought SMG wanted to run from it.

Charisma just looks the type. Dark hair, tall, curvy, tan, beautiful smile, beautiful face, and- let's face it, boys- boobs. The body is a big part of WW, and CC is one of the only people who can pull it off.

WW also needs to be exotic looking. SMG looks All American (As does the majority of the other actresses being considered), while CC looks very exotic.

It's just a matter of who's better for the part and who can give a 'wink' while delivering their lines.

[v120176]

Originally posted by LaLa247
I think we can discuss this without bashing SMG.


Sorry if my post sounded like a SMG bashing, it wasn't my intention, but I really dislike SMG as an actress, like I think EC is great or the best actor of the buffyverse was VK ( i mean if that kid could do just something with the parts he got on season 4, he deserves an Oscar, an Emmy, a Golden Globe.... even a Grammy!). I think SMG has experience and TV timing but I also think her performance out of BTVS were bad when she was the center. In horror movies, she did fine.

V.

[Mab]

Originally posted by LaLa247
I think we can discuss this without bashing SMG.

SMG is a good actress, in my opinion, but she's not Wonder Woman. This also goes the way of typecasting (the main reason why LL rejected the role), and I thought SMG wanted to run from it.

Charisma just looks the type. Dark hair, tall, curvy, tan, beautiful smile, beautiful face, and- let's face it, boys- boobs. The body is a big part of WW, and CC is one of the only people who can pull it off.

WW also needs to be exotic looking. SMG looks All American (As does the majority of the other actresses being considered), while CC looks very exotic.

It's just a matter of who's better for the part and who can give a 'wink' while delivering their lines.

Well said, La. (I was kinda wincing at the anorexic and midget comments.)

When I was 2, I "became" Wonder Woman. I had the bathing suit, the underoos and the magic lasso. If I can't be Wonder Woman (and I'm thinkin' that I'm not even in the running), then nothing would make me happier than Charisma in the role.

Face it, she has the hair, the height, the attitude and the boobs.

[Cordy Chase]

I'd be afraid of Sarah winning it, too, just because she was Buffy. Which means nothing to me, but you know Hollywood. If she wants to look silly, I say go for it. Because that's what it would be. She doesn't look a thing like WW.

Charisma is far more physically suited for the part, and I really hope they don't overlook her just because she's not "well known". She was on TV for seven or eight years, what more do they want?

Cassie

[fielding]

SMG would be absolutely ridiculous in the role.

Aside from Charisma, I think Famke Janssen would be a good choice.

[QueenC]

SMG worked for Buffy because there was a certain symbolism, if you will, to having a petite, "delicate" girl be the one who was so powerful...

but I completely agree that in no way is SMG physically suited to playing WW. I really can't see the PTB behind the movie risking SMG as WW because the fact is... no one would buy her as the heroine. Unlike Buffy, which was JW's creation, WW is such an identifiable character that the movie NEEDS someone physically right for the role. And CC would be perfect! And she would bring fantastic energy to the role.

Casting SMG as WW would be like casting Seth Green as Superman (no disrespect at all to SG as an actor -- love him! -- in case anyone was wondering.. ;) )


Lori :)

[Bernie the Moose]

My thoughts on the compitition:

SMG is too short and skinny.
Lucy L. is too mannish.
Famke J. is already Jean Grey.
Jennifer C. is too dramatic.

And i really do think its now between CC and SMG. I said this earlier(not sure if it was here or C-C.com) but SMG would just do this to get her Buffy title to go away. CC has a good shot i think.

[jerry]

I would think that if they really are casting a Wonder Woman right now, that Jennifer Garner would probably be at or near the top of the list. Not that she'd be better in the role than Charisma, necessarily - I don't think she would be. But she looks right for the part (unlike, say SMG), is the right age (Lucy Lawless is probably a bit older than they would like), she's more famous, and she's already proven her ability to be a convincing action star.

[missdini]

I'd love to see CC play WW. But i think they'll take an actress who is more known. But i really hope it's going to be CC.

As for SMG, she simply doesn't look like WW. She's too short and too thin imo, nothing like WW!

[SamIAm]

Well, Jennifer Garner has already done one of this type of movie, so perhaps CC has that going for her.

[dollparts]

someone on the IMDB suggested Jodi Lyn O Keefe. Who I adore. Plus she's practically an amazon. She's huge.

So if not Charisma, her. I'd like to see them go with someone less famous. I'd think SMG would want to play something other than a superhero.

[Penny Century]

Originally posted by SamIAm
Well, Jennifer Garner has already done one of these type of movies, so perhaps CC has that going for her.
Not just one movie, either; Electra is getting her own spinoff movie/possible tentpole. That may affect whether the producers would decide to hang another franchise on her.

[jerry]

Originally posted by Penny Century
Not just one movie, either; Electra is getting her own spinoff movie/possible tentpole. That may affect whether the producers would decide to hang another franchise on her.

Well, that's very true - given her time-consuming day job, if either a Daredevil sequel or an Electra spinoff went forward, JG probably wouldn't be available for another action film for quite a while. But she'd still probably be on the wish list.

[Mab]

Originally posted by Bernie the Moose


SMG is too short and skinny.
Lucy L. is too mannish.




I don't see why people need to bash other actresses in order to validate Charisma's suitability for the role. It's simply not necessary. Charisma is simply the ideal candidate. Period. Dot. End of story.

[Platypus]

I don't think it's bashing to state that SMG is short or skinny. She IS short, and she is a very thin actress. Let's face it, she's a tiny woman.

Physical compatibility is always a consideration in the casting of superhero roles - I can remember how many people were wailing about Michael Keaton being cast as Batman, or about Tobey Maguire being cast as Spiderman. Both of those turned out rather well, but my point is unless someone is harping on physical attributes continually whenever they bring up a certain actor or actress in every discussion, I think it's fair game to say that any particular actress isn't physically compatible with the ideal of Wonder Woman. And since I think at some point SMG also let it be known that she was interested in the role, it's fair game and, I think, relevant to the discussion.

[Mab]

Originally posted by Platypus
I don't think it's bashing to state that SMG is short or skinny. She IS short, and she is a very thin actress. Let's face it, she's a tiny woman.



I agree that she is a tiny woman. I guess it's all in the intent. And I don't think that the intent was to say that she's simply "petite." Not when followed up with a comment regarding LL's supposed "mannish-ness."

Am I allowed to talk about how fat David Boreanaz has gotten?

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Mab
And I don't think that the intent was to say that she's simply "petite." Not when followed up with a comment regarding LL's supposed "mannish-ness." I agree. Since the first choice for WW was LL, I would say the majority disagrees that she is "mannish".

I personally don't need to bash any actress to show why CC is better for the role. I just listed all my reasons on page two, without bashing anyone. It's not cool. At all.

Am I allowed to talk about how fat David Boreanaz has gotten? You could, but that would be *wrong*...unless he's up against James Marsters for Superman.

[Bernie the Moose]

SMG is a tiny woman, we all know, but shes still hot and i like her.
The LL coment was just my opinion. I didnt think ud take it so seriously. sorry:)

[Platypus]

Originally posted by Mab
I agree that she is a tiny woman. I guess it's all in the intent. And I don't think that the intent was to say that she's simply "petite." Not when followed up with a comment regarding LL's supposed "mannish-ness."

:shrug: I think both were simply the poster's opinion. I disagree on LL being "mannish", but then again, I find Jennifer Garner to be mannish and I don't understand the appeal there at all.

Am I allowed to talk about how fat David Boreanaz has gotten?

I imagine that depends on the context, but Penny, Florrie or Emma would know better. If it's in the context of him vying for a role that would seem to require someone of slimmer build, then it may be fair game. If it's out of the blue, then probably not.

Originally posted by LaLa247
I personally don't need to bash any actress to show why CC is better for the role. I just listed all my reasons on page two, without bashing anyone. It's not cool. At all.

Hey, it's your prerogative. But not everybody has to discuss within the same parameters. If someone wants to talk about it with reference to other prospective candidates for the role, why can't they do that?

In any event, I think the word "bashing" is losing all context. Does disliking someone for a role and saying so equate to bashing? Does commenting on how someone's physical appearance isn't suitable for a role equate to bashing? LaLa, you know I lurve you, but I've seen you comment on MANY performers in a negative fashion. Avril Lavigne comes to mind! ;) I don't think you're bashing when you do that, and I think the better approach is to disagree with someone, rather than throw out the accusation of "bashing". Because, to me, THAT'S not cool. YMMV.

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Platypus
If someone wants to talk about it with reference to other prospective candidates for the role, why can't they do that? You can talk about it in reference to other canidates, but there's a difference between compare and contrast and "she's can't act/anorexic".

Does disliking someone for a role and saying so equate to bashing? Absolutely not.

Does commenting on how someone's physical appearance isn't suitable for a role equate to bashing? No, but calling someone "mannish", a "goddamn midget", and "anorexic" is. Resorting to name-calling when one could easily say "She's too short and not curvy enough" is not cool.

LaLa, you know I lurve you, but I've seen you comment on MANY performers in a negative fashion. Avril Lavigne comes to mind! ;) I've never touched on Avril Levigne's weight or physical appearance. I've commented on how I don't like her music, and about how I think she's a poser, but I've never said Avril was "anorexic" or a "midget". That is the difference between what's going on here and what I've said in music threads.

I don't think you're bashing when you do that, and I think the better approach is to disagree with someone, rather than throw out the accusation of "bashing". Because, to me, THAT'S not cool. YMMV. Yet, when someone says CC has gained weight, looks old, or is losing it as an actress, they get someone jumping down their throats and bashing is proclaimed. Come on, dude- no double standards, please. :)

[Penny Century]

Don't make me get up, kids.

To clarify: Discussing an actor's physical appearance with respect to a role, especially one for which physical appearance is a matter of canon, is fine.

Dissing an actor over physical appearance isn't. (I think we all know what that means. "Anorexic midget" I'll back you up on, but "short" and "skinny"? Not so much.)

It seems that much of what this comes down to is some individual oxen being gored, anyway, so toughen up. Dudes, that way lies wank. You don't wanna go there.

Thank yeeeeeeewwww!

[Platypus]

Deleted in light of Penny's clarification.

[Morrigan]

Originally posted by Platypus
I can remember how many people were wailing about Michael Keaton being cast as Batman,
Oh I remember what that was like, I never thought Mr. Mom could make a good Batman or a great Bruce Wayne and yet Michael Keaton pulled it off wonderfully. Live and learn, I guess.

or about Tobey Maguire being cast as Spiderman.
Never had a problem with that bit of casting I thought and still think that TM make a perfect Peter Parker.

In all honestly not even LL could pull the role off physically. The only actress close enough is Chyna and she doesn't have the acting abilities IMO, to make the part work. CC is a good choice, maybe not the best but she comes close to the role physically but more importantly she can bring something to the emotions and humor of Diana.

[v120176]

OK, when I said that SMG will look like an "anorexic WW" I didn't insulted her, at least that was never my intention. For one very simple reason: I WAS anorexic or Am, because is like an addiction, you can recover but that will be your weak point, so if I was/am an anorexic person I will never use that like an insult.
And maybe that maked me use that word like a familiar term and don't see it like an insult. Just think about it. If you put SMG like the way she she looked on BTVS 7, because, excuse me I know what I'm talking about and she was TOO skinny, unnatural skinny for her contexture, and you said that she IS Wonder Woman, what message would you send? She will look like a WW with a eating disorder. Sorry if for somebody "anorexic" is an insult, to me is not, and that's comes from one that have that problem and has no shame because of that.
And for the acting, am I the only one that found her performance in Cruel Intentions funny?! Sorry, here the critics were more rude than me.

V.

[KarKar]

Physicality aside, I just can’t see SMG as WW. The role pretty much defines ‘Amazonian’ and as a princess, the actress has to have that larger than life presence. SMG does pixie, she does ingenue and petite but I can’t see her as a front and center giant.

CC on the other hand has that and she’s the size of your pocket. However her presence towers over AA who is taller than her and makes AHD and SMG look diminutive while she’s the same height.

She also has a regal air that would fit a princess.

Plus, CC’s got that All-American smile that just kills.


And as far as Michael Keaton goes, anyone who saw Clean and Sober knew he’d be perfect as Batman.

[AssassinRo]

http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/

I think this is the official site of WW.. where you can submit who you would like to see as WW. There's a poll there, would you rather have WW cast as an unknown actress or known. There's a huge lead for "unknown".. I think that's good for Charisma? I'm not sure if she's well known or not. But I think if we show a lot of support for CC she'll have a great chance.


-Elise

[Penny Century]

Originally posted by KarKar
CC on the other hand has that and she’s the size of your pocket. However her presence towers over AA who is taller than her and makes AHD and SMG look diminutive while she’s the same height.
Actually CC is taller than SMG and AHD (at 5'7" to their 5'2" or 3"). Point taken, though, about AA, whom she does seem to tower over despite being shorter by an inch or more.

She also has that dancer's bearing and posture and looks the part of a Genuine Princess without even trying. Plus the ass-kicking. Gotta have ass-kicking.

[KarKar]

Originally posted by Penny Century
Actually CC is taller than SMG and AHD (at 5'7" to their 5'2" or 3"). Point taken, though, about AA, whom she does seem to tower over despite being shorter by an inch or more.
Really? I could've sworn I saw a pic of them by the bench in BtVS and being struck by the fact that she was the same height as AHD.

And she does seemingly have legs that go on for days so that aids to the perception.

[MrPresident]

I hope SMG doesnt get the part. She doesnt at all have any of the qualitys that it takes to be Wonderwomen. Now CC on the other hand, she definately has all the qualitys and more. I think this Playboy thing really has alot to do with CC getting the role of Wonderwomen, and I really hope it works, because CC deserves that role more than anybody.

[Platypus]

The story continues to circulate and make the online rounds.

From The Comic Book Reel (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=3255):

WONDER WOMAN

Sky News reports that Former "Buffy" star Sarah Michelle Gellar is the lead contender for the role of Princess Diana. Their report comments on former co-star Charisma Carpenter's desire to play Themyscria's Finest. "Charisma is a strong contender and she's equally as sexy," their insider said.

The story quotes Sky News (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-12987170,00.html) as the source, which in turns quotes the Daily Star, so it's still all tabloid fodder. But it is making the rounds.

[XIVParis]

Originally posted by AssassinRo
http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/

I think this is the official site of WW.. where you can submit who you would like to see as WW. There's a poll there, would you rather have WW cast as an unknown actress or known. There's a huge lead for "unknown".. I think that's good for Charisma? I'm not sure if she's well known or not. But I think if we show a lot of support for CC she'll have a great chance.


-Elise

Done for CC ;)

[Morrigan]

I put CC's name in on that website and gave a brief explanation of why I think she's the best choice.

[Lovin' Lorne]

The only thing that has me a little bit worried that they might go the SMG route, is the fact that Cathy Lee Crosby played WW in a 1970's TV movie. Small, blonde, thin. Never what I would imagine WW to be, but it has been done before.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/lovinlorne/wwcathy-1.jpg

[tojoson]

yah, but that movie bombed.

everyone has their idea of what wonder woman looks like, CLC just didn't have the physical presence of wonder woman, and that costume, blah.
i like CLC as an actress, but the visual aspect just wasn't there.

it would be the same with SMG, and even sandra bullock (an early choice)

[Morrigan]

If they hadn't had Linda Carter in the role 2 years later I'd say getting a tiny little blonde to be WW could happen.

However just about everyone I know identifies WW with either the 1970's show or with cartoon/anime (Justice League) even the WW costumes are in line with Linda Carter.

I just don't see a new movie straying away from that look.

[Lovin' Lorne]

Totally agree. But it wouldn't come that far out of left field if it did.

Too bad they didn't plan this movie 30 years ago. Then they <i>could </i> have used Lynda Carter. She rocked.

[KarKar]

Originally posted by tojoson
yah, but that movie bombed.

everyone has their idea of what wonder woman looks like, CLC just didn't have the physical presence of wonder woman, and that costume, blah.
i like CLC as an actress, but the visual aspect just wasn't there.
While I admire that they took another route and re-envisioned WW w/ a new uniform, no jet, different bracelets, etc, I remember watching that movie later on.

I had no idea that she was supposed to be Wonder Woman.

[writingpathways]

As someone who played at being Wonder Woman and Diana Prince before she could even TALK -- I am going on record as saying that Charisma is the epitome of my inner vision of Wonder Woman. Beautiful, regal and real...

There is something about charimsa's presence despite her stunning beauty and winning smile that makes her seem just like that girl next door that you may run into at the grocery store. Wonder Woman/Diana needs that as much as the beauty and regality.

[rosary]

Whos better for Wonde r woman Sarah or Charisma

I've read that sarah is probably going to take the role, but charisma also wants it , personally i think that charisma will do best, but sarah will end up catching the role because she's more popular anyway
But what do you think

:9mm: sarah ¡¡¡¡

:lol: CHARISMA ¡¡¡


I want to Charisma, we must help it to give the opportunity of the cinema of Wronder Woman. Please Not to SARAH:mad:

¿peticion for Charisma ??

[Catherine]

Someone posted this at ASSB:
http://www.voy.com/14810/133072042.html

[Alice]

Have you guys seen the coverage this is getting over at
AICN (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16962)

[Elisha]

Dear lord some of those posters over at AICN are vial.

[LaLa247]

Eliza Dushku as Wonder Woman? I love me some Eliza, but no, no, y no.

I'm still for Charisma. *waves flag*

[KarKar]

Not as bad as I thought. I have no idea where these people last saw CC given their descriptions but the AICN boys certainly love an excuse to show the Maxim shots, don’t they?

That crack don’t kill

It would be interesting to see ED but I can’t see her pulling it off w/ a straight face. More campy, less All-American.

Maybe she has been typecast as the bad girl, the outre one, but I don’t see her smiling a huge poster child smile in the role.

Monica Bellucci’s pretty, but she comes across more sultry than “kick ass.” I remember her from Brotherhood of the Wolf and while she pulled off the hooker scenes, she looked kind of ridiculous as the superspy.

And Rene Sofer? Dude, that girl’s got worse luck than Ted McGinley in giving a project the kiss of death. Plus, the girl looks unhinged in everything I’ve ever seen her in. Probably wasn’t in GH but I guess since Melrose, the elevator doesn’t seem to go all the way up for me when I watch her.

Now Carla Gugino would be interesting and she is available….

[Luna]

My vote is for Charisma because she´s sexy and beautiful.

I´d love to see her kickin´ ass as Wonder Woman.:)

[Elisha]

Dude I had completely forgotten about SMG’s skit at the MTV awards as WW.
http://www.geocities.com/superheroinewomen4/sarahmichellegellar/

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Elisha
Dude I had completely forgotten about SMG’s skit at the MTV awards as WW.
http://www.geocities.com/superheroinewomen4/sarahmichellegellar/ So...is that where all this SMG talk is comin' from? Did SMG ever actually *say* she wanted to be WW, or are people just trying to start shit?

And no, I still don't buy SMG as WW.

[Penny Century]

Originally posted by LaLa247
So...is that where all this SMG talk is comin' from? Did SMG ever actually *say* she wanted to be WW, or are people just trying to start shit?
Well, showing up at an awards ceremony in a superhero costume does give off that Sean Young vibe, La. Even you have to admit it. ;)

[Elisha]

Okay this has got to make you laugh, even Sarah says she looks bad as Wonder Women.

A quote from a BBC interview.

I was Wonder Woman recently for a sketch on the MTV movie awards. She wears blue leather underwear. Let me tell you something, I looked like a drag queen. I don't know how Lynda Carter did it; the red boosty, the belt, the hair. I belonged in "Priscilla Queen of the Desert". I was on these huge heels, spinning around, doing the Wonder Woman spin. Oh my god!

[Cordy's Bitch]

Well, let's see...

http://www.stevecoulson.com/gallery/images/featured/ross_300.jpg

http://www.nickmidian.com/images/Casting/CharismaCarpenter.jpg

That's the modern Alex Ross conception of Wonder Woman.

[psychofilly]

Alex Ross is God.

Would CC have to bulk up?? I know LC wasn't all that muscular, even though she was statuesque and athletic looking.

CC in superhero pose...http://userpic.livejournal.com/10385460/1062322

[Cordy's Bitch]

I like this one, too...

http://images.comicbookresources.com/features/ross_wonderwoman.jpg

[missdini]

That's a beautiful CC pic psychofilly!

http://userpic.livejournal.com/10385460/1062322

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Penny Century
Well, showing up at an awards ceremony in a superhero costume does give off that Sean Young vibe, La. Even you have to admit it. ;) LOL Alright, alright! That does scream "Eeee, scary", so I'll give ya that one...

[Syn]

<img src=http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/sillysicksyn/ccwonderwoman.jpg>

Heh. She is SO Wonder Woman. How could anyone deny it?

[Morrigan]

Originally posted by psychofilly
Alex Ross is God.

Would CC have to bulk up?? I know LC wasn't all that muscular, even though she was statuesque and athletic looking.


Bulk up? Probably not but I would think she'd have to get toned like Linda Hamilton did for T2

[Bernie the Moose]

The pic that Syn posted is awesome. we should send that 2 someone involved w/ casting. :D :D :D :lol:

[aikakone]

I would love CC in the role, but after watching "That Vision Thing" last night, I could imagine Stephanie Romanov if Charisma didn't get it. I love Stephanie's cheekbones. Wow!

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Syn
<img src=http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/sillysicksyn/ccwonderwoman.jpg>

Heh. She is SO Wonder Woman. How could anyone deny it? Hee! I just erupted into giggles, how sad...lol

[KarKar]

Yeah, he's kind of given the industry a jolt.

Loved Kingdom Come and the sequel. But that's a much older WW.

I think the key is having shoulders that you can hang the dining room curtains from like Lucy Lawless. CC definitely have the broad shoulders for the role, something SMG doesn't quite have.

[Cordy's Bitch]

Originally posted by KarKar
Yeah, he's kind of given the industry a jolt.

Loved Kingdom Come and the sequel. But that's a much older WW.



The current stuff is pretty good from what I've been told. And she was still young enough to get pregnant by Supes!end Kingdom Come spoiler...

[Rachelle]

Why does Sarah need to be WW?? Honestly. She already messed up Daphne.

And besides, WW is an Amazon... which tend to be tall. Sarah's like 3 feet tall. I think she has tiny person syndrome & that's why she keeps going for all these 'bigger than thou' rolls.

I posted at the board for Charisma, naturally. Other than Lucy Lawless or Sandra Bullock, there's no contest... unless they find a true unknown:eek:

[Jamie82]

I'm with you all on CC being Wonder Woman

Also, I wanted to know what exactly the plot/storyline is to Wonder Woman?

[Bertha Blue]

I don't know if this has been posted, but here is another site saying that both SMG and CC are up for the role:

http://buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=3218

Okay, I think CC would be perfect, but Ashley Scott? She's okay, but isn't half as talented or as well known as CC is IJMHO.

[wiccan]

I cannot see SMG as Wonder Woman at all - Charisma, however, would fit the role perfectly.

Shame that it's most likely that SMG would get it rather than CC. Although I can't see why at all....we all know from Halloween that SMG doesn't suit the black wig thing. ;)

[Bertha Blue]

Well, SMG has the moves and has cred because of BTVS. And, she really does give off that "all American girl" image that the producers MIGHT want for WW. Plus, the Scooby Doo movies have made a ton of cash (why, I will never know), so it could be that the studio heads are thinking box office potential rather than who is best suited for the role (I mean, it's typical Joel Silver to think that way too-go for the $$$ and the big bang to get butts in the seats rather than quality IMHO-Pirates of the Carribean being the only exception IMO).

[LaLa247]

I assume SMG would dye her hair black if she were to get it, but she doesn't fill out the costume. It's all about the boobies! Boobies, boobies, boobies!

I am also greatly amused that piece about CC in Playboy is 96% of what people are looking at.

[KarKar]

Originally posted by Cordy's Bitch
The current stuff is pretty good from what I've been told. And she was still young enough to get pregnant by Supes!end Kingdom Come spoiler...
Who turns out to be The Phantom Stranger???

Ok Alex. Hit that pipe.

But since that was set in the future by about 30 years it figures that they'd be different physically. Heck, Supes had grey hair and a ponytail.

I think the thing that surprised me about Ross is that he's been w/ so many different companies and he's still relatively young. And he's been a huge success if he's already got coffeetable books.

Hasn't he been with both Marvel & DC along w/ the smaller ones like Top Cow and all?

[tojoson]

it's NOT just about boobies, although that's a big part of the image, someone upthread mentioned shoulders, and hair, but also think about her arms (CC has some guns, from rock climbing), and legs, wonder woman wears those briels, (a couple of years ago there was a website that polled about body parts, hair, eyes, lips, breasts,--and CC won for legs).

i think SMG, with her thinness couldn't compare to CC in these areas.

and when they had SMG run in high heels in buffy, she ran wierd, she didn't look comfortable running in heels. and wondef woman will probaqbly be running a lot.

in the last couple of days, wondering around the net, i must have read about 500 posts about CC vs SMG for wonder woman, and 498 said CC was best, 1 said NOOOOOOOO, and one didn't want either.

maybe the only reason SMG is called the frontrunner is because she expressed an interest earlier, and her name has been in front of the producers longer, CC only came out with her statement 6 days ago, also how can these people claiming SMG in the lead have contacted the producers already and gotten this information already, and i don't think ANYONE has auditioned yet, so how can there be a frontrunner

[tojoson]

posting after myself (sigh)

anyway i just found this at this site
this site (http://superherohype.com/wonderwoman/index.php?id=814)

About this Buffy as Wonder Woman News
Source: Superhero Hype!
Monday, February 9, 2004

Word is spreading quickly that Sarah Michelle Gellar (aka Buffy the Vampire Slayer) is top of the list to take on the role of Wonder Woman. This comes shortly on the heels of the news that Charisma Carpenter last week actually did say she wanted the role.

Fans, no matter where you're reading the Gellar bit, the news originated from UK's The Daily Star, who like to make up news (AND quotes from alleged 'insiders') on the spot.

Don't believe a word of it.


interesting site, message boards and everything, with some interesting ideas of who should be wonder woman (if CC doesn't make it).
i kinda like karen cliche for the roll (if CC can't have it)

[Bertha Blue]

I don't know why SMG and Sandra Bullock's names are even in the running. Both have said that they didn't want to do it (especially SB-she said she hated the outfit, it was too camp, it would stereotype her, she didn't want to have to work out). Why would you want an actress for the role that just pans it whatever chance she gets?

[starlightMint]

According to this (http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/columnists/story.asp?id=7F3149B0-D04B-4C8B-B6C2-50FDE0F76EDC) site, Joel Silver is the one producing. Does anyone know who the producers are for sure? If so maybe we could find an address and write to them. We could head some of the CC campaign their way and let them know that Charisma would be perfect for the role.

[Platypus]

You know that word is REALLY out when the story is mentioned in my hometown newspaper, the Montreal Gazette. Doug Camilli is a senior entertainment columnist at the paper. Here's the link Nipplegate trickles down (http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/columnists/story.asp?id=7F3149B0-D04B-4C8B-B6C2-50FDE0F76EDC) (if you're interested, he also riffs on Nipplegate, makes fun of Jim Carrey, disses Penelope Cruz and gossips about Catherine Zeta Jones and Nicole Kidman!).

Quotage:

Interesting competition for the Wonder Woman role in the new Warner Bros. movie: Sarah Michelle Gellar is the name we keep hearing for this gig, but now there's a report Charisma Carpenter, star of the Buffy The Vampire Slayer spinoff series Angel, is a strong contender for the job. Also mentioned: Sandra Bullock and Ashley Scott of the series Dark Angel. Joel Silver produces. I'll keep you posted.

[askew]

I have to say Carla Gugino would make a good Wonder Woman, if Charisma Carpenter doesn't get the role. And Carla has experience as an action star with Karen Sisco and SpyKids. However, CC is still the best actress for the role. Hopefully, her higher profile will help in landing this role or some other major role soon.

[KarKar]

Hey Askew, did you get my email? I tried to send you a PM but couldn't get to your inbox.

[askew]

Originally posted by KarKar
Hey Askew, did you get my email? I tried to send you a PM but couldn't get to your inbox.

Hey, I didn't get your e-mail, my profile is really out of date. But, I just cleared out my PMs and if that doesn't work my e-mail address is askew2004@earthlink.net

[kyle]

hey Elise, thanks for the link to http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/

i'll be sure and write something up to send there.

for anyone interested in keeping track of the details - like writers, producers, confirmed actors - check out this site;

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808406625

personally, i'm a little dismayed at the people in charge of this movie, and have doubts on how well it will turn out.. but hopefully they pull it off.

here's a site that seems to be very popular for comic fans, so i wrote up another Charisma booster, and they also have a poll setup..

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94876&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

people here could definitely show good support for Charisma by hiking up those Yes votes.

also, i've added another comment to the imdb forum, which is getting nice feedback about Charisma;

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074074/board/nest/2464948

cheers,

-kyle

[Syn]

<img src=http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/sillysicksyn/ccwonderwoman2.jpg>

This one blows, but its hard to manip the whole outfit. LOL

[LaLa247]

Originally posted by Syn
<img src=http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/sillysicksyn/ccwonderwoman2.jpg>

This one blows, but its hard to manip the whole outfit. LOL Dude, shut up! You SO rock!

Look how purdy she looks! She's the obvious choice for WW. :)

[Syn]

Heee! She's even changing in a phone booth...oh wait, that's Supes! ;)

[aikakone]

Syn, your CC as WW (love the initials) fan arts so rock! I'd love to see more, so go ahead and get inspired again!

[Syn]

Do NOT encourage me. :lol:

[hobo_bobo]

Wouldn't this look cool:

Tell us what you think, personally i think she looks awesome, i think shes got the perfect physique and persona for the role.

http://s94645138.onlinehome.us/newbuild/wonder.jpg

[LaLa247]

Someone at C-C.com posted this link to their manip here (http://www.jeansmx.com/walls/buffy/charisma800/images/wwcc00-800.jpg) and I am floored by how good she would look.

Hee!

[DamnSkippy]

Someone (Syn et al.) should post these on a storyboard at the WW website. Someone already has posted similar manips of some actress I haven't heard of. CC looks a million times better and I can't see how it could hurt.

[shar]

I loved the idea of cc as ww but the more manips i see the more sure i become with how great she will be.if cc doesnt get it im going to be so dissapointed.
By the way does anyone know if this project will be started soon or is it going to be a case of superman with names flying around for years.

[KarKar]

I was thinking of that old RS cover (http://images.rollingstone.com/rollingstone/content/3861/images/35755.jpg) w/ SMG in a superhero outfit. She looked out of place with her hands on her hips in my mind. Like the costume was overwhelming her and she didn’t feel comfortable with the larger than life posing.

Now maybe it’s just the high collar that’s making her scrunch up her shoulders like my cat but it didn’t have that iconic, eye-popping feel to it that the role would need.

[kyle]

those two pictures

http://s94645138.onlinehome.us/newbuild/wonder.jpg

http://www.jeansmx.com/walls/buffy/charisma800/images/wwcc00-800.jpg

make me wish i needed rescuing.

when i write my ideas and suggestions to wonderwoman-themovie.com (http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/) i'll include links to some fan art.

also in that letter, i'd like to provide some episodes of Buffy and Angel which they could watch to see Charisma's range and ability, as most concerns i've read from people on other boards are of that topic.

anyone have ideas? what episodes has Charisma shined in, and wasn't there one from Buffy that particularly showed Cordy's depth early on?

[Penny Century]

I'd suggest "Invisible Girl," "Homecoming," and "Lovers Walk" from BtVS, plus "Rm W/a Vu," "To Shanshu in L.A.," "Untouched," "That Vision Thing," "Billy," "Offspring," "Birthday," "You're Welcome," and any number of other AtS episodes to start with. Off the top of my head.

[SamIAm]

Originally posted by kyle
anyone have ideas? what episodes has Charisma shined in, and wasn't there one from Buffy that particularly showed Cordy's depth early on?

In addition to "Invisible Girl," I thought Charisma was great in "The Witch," both from Buffy season one. "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" or "Killed by Death" are probably the best choices for the second season of Buffy, and "Lovers Walk" and "The Wish" from her last season. As for Angel, there are a lot to choose from, particularly "Rm w/a Vu", "Untouched", "Hearthtrob", "Billy", "Birthday", and "Waiting in the Wings."

But for my money, Charisma's best overall performance is in "Slouching Towards Bethlehem."

[DamnSkippy]

*ahem* I don't think CC did a very good job with the heavy stuff in Rm W/a Vu. Most of the episode is great, she has always been the queen of comedy. But when mom ghost goes nuts during the cleansing ritual and CC's supposed to be terrified and incoherent...well, I just didn't buy it. And then, later in the bedroom when she delivers her "bitch is back" line, the transition from terror to self-control was too fast. There was no change in thought process. No real Aha! moment. That, I think, was due to very bad editing, but it didn't make her look good.

She has improved tremendously as an actress and YW is evidence that she can handle anything now. But S1 Ats, IMO, she was still a bit green with the serious scenes and struggling to find a method that worked for her. The best way to explain it is 'inconsistent'. She was fantastic in "Hero" at Doyle's death, but just watch the scene in her apartment in Five by Five when Angel finds her after Faith knocks her out. It's very painfully clear that she was *acting* upset there.

I only say this because I feel if you're going to recommend episodes that showcase her talent, I'd pick episodes that she rocks all the way through.

*pleasedon'tkillmepleasedon'tkillmepleasedon'tkill me*

ETA: To correct the episode title. Thanks, Syn, for noticing.

[Syn]

If anyone wants to post my manips in any threads or on sites, go right ahead. I don't care! Spread the love!!

And DamnSkippy, while I don't agree with you on Rm w/a Vu., I do agree about Five by Five. Her crying outburst with Angel after Faith takes Wesley always seemed unnatural to me. She was reaching there, but honestly, that's the only performance of hers I've ever been unsatisfied with. She can do serious as well as anyone.

[SamIAm]

Originally posted by DamnSkippy
I'd pick episodes that she rocks all the way through.

I did.

*pleasedon'tkillmepleasedon'tkillmepleasedon'tkill me*

Well, just this once. ;)

[LaLa247]

I agree on "Sanctuary", and half of "Rm W/ A Vu". Her crying while Angel was yelling at her to get up just seemed very forced to me, but her quiet vulnerability in her house ("How? How am I more then that?") and in the office ("Like I’m still getting punished...") really worked.

I agree with DS and Syn. She got better as the eps went on. Like Boreanaz...okay, that was a bad example, but you get what I'm saying. :p

[DamnSkippy]

Originally posted by LaLa247
I agree on "Sanctuary", and half of "Rm W/ A Vu". Her crying while Angel was yelling at her to get up just seemed very forced to me, but her quiet vulnerability in her house ("How? How am I more then that?") and in the office ("Like I’m still getting punished...") really worked.

Totally agree. Those scenes were excellent. The only part I had a problem with were the two scenes I mentioned. Otherwise, the rest of the episode is fantastic, IMO.

Thank you all for not killing me...yet.

[Special Kate]

It would be really cool to see CC as WW :lol:

[Syn]

<img src=http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/1003/sillysicksyn/opi/ccwonderwoman7.jpg>

Lala made me do it!! :o

I made six more which you can find here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/verucawerewolf/330105.html#cutid1). :)

(Me? Obsessed? Nooooo....!!!)

[kyle]

DamnSkippy, i agree with you on the points mentioned. i managed to catch some repeats of older episodes the past few months, and it is interesting seeing just how much she has improved.. i was actually surprised upon noticing how bad some of those little flaws appear to be, now that we know she can do so much better.

i'll borrow some Buffy dvds from a friend to check out them out, then write something up early next week.

thanks for the feedback

[carrowsboy]

Syn, those pics are AMAZING!!!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed she gets the role.

[aikakone]

Ooh, had to take a look at Syn's artsy goodness. You're like me--not needing much encouragement to do what you really want to do anyway.

And I found myself in a pickle 2 days ago. I went to the WW site to vote for actress, and when I got to the "known vs. unknown" actress, I wasn't sure what to put! WE know Charisma, so she isn't unkown. That doesn't make her a top tier known celeb like Sandra Bullock or Nicole Kidman. Since I wasn't sure, I didn't vote. Any suggestions?

[Platypus]

There's a poll up at Sci-Fi Wire regarding "candidates" for the role of Wonder Woman. I say "candidates" because it only includes Charisma, SMG and, for some reason unknown to me, Alyson Hannigan.

Go forth and vote!

Who do you think should get the golden lasso? (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/tv.html)

[Morrigan]

Thanks, I voted.

[DamnSkippy]

I voted! CC has 66% already. Woohoo!

[pepper pot]

i voted too, she just fits the part perfectly, and while i love sarah and aly they just arent right for it, aly's too well aly-like and sarah's too tiny

[Penny Century]

The number of votes has nearly tripled since this morning -- from around 400 to nearly 1200 -- and CC's lead actually has expanded, to 67 percent. Whoooo!

[SamIAm]

This may have been asked and answered; if so, I apologize, but I didn't see it skimming through earlier posts: I get the impression this project is way low on anyone's radar, so is there anything more than a slim chance it's going to get made at all?

[Platypus]

Originally posted by SamIAm
This may have been asked and answered; if so, I apologize, but I didn't see it skimming through earlier posts: I get the impression this project is way low on anyone's radar, so is there anything more than a slim chance it's going to get made at all?

I suspect not. But Charisma seems to be gunning for it, so maybe she or her managers know something the rest of the world does not.

I'd be delighted to hear she landed the role, but for more selfish reasons I want her back on television in a weekly series. I like getting my "CC fix", and I want to follow her playing a character that hopefully develops over the course of many years. ;)

[Morrigan]

Originally posted by SamIAm
This may have been asked and answered; if so, I apologize, but I didn't see it skimming through earlier posts: I get the impression this project is way low on anyone's radar, so is there anything more than a slim chance it's going to get made at all?

CC said she hasn't seen a script yet so I don't the the production is going to happen anytime soon but I do think that given the recent rise in comic book movies that it won't be too far off.

[SamIAm]

Originally posted by Platypus
I like getting my "CC fix", and I want to follow her playing a character that hopefully develops over the course of many years. ;)

Ah, bracing yourself for the 'St. Serena' debates, are you? ;)

Thanks for the info, and Morrigan as well. I wasn't trying to be all negative and stuff, I was just wondering what the scoop is.

[rolandro]

Originally posted by Platypus
I suspect not. But Charisma seems to be gunning for it, so maybe she or her managers know something the rest of the world does not.

I'd be delighted to hear she landed the role, but for more selfish reasons I want her back on television in a weekly series. I like getting my "CC fix", and I want to follow her playing a character that hopefully develops over the course of many years. ;)

Isn't this *in addition* to half hours? I got the impression a movie deal would be for the tv summer hiatus - at least that's what CC was indicating in her interview.

What IS the deal with the development season, anyway? Is it in full swing, over, done? What?

Some guys would like to know.

[Penny Century]

Rolandro, I got the same message -- that CC would like to do half-hours during TV season and perhaps do movies during hiatus.

And speaking of which, here's the latest on SciFi's Wonder Woman poll -- with 3,434 votes in:

SMG 16%
CC 70%
AHD 14%

[Jake]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0402/16/ww204.jpg

[Luna]

And speaking of which, here's the latest on SciFi's Wonder Woman poll -- with 3,434 votes in:

SMG 16%
CC 70%
AHD 14%

Cool, they´ve noticed that Charisma is the right choice!:9mm::)

[Penny Century]

With 4,809 votes cast, CC still has 70 percent of them. SMG and AHD have 15 percent each.

[Nirvana 1]

Originally posted by Penny Century
With 4,809 votes cast, CC still has 70 percent of them. SMG and AHD have 15 percent each.

Cool. I took that link to Sparklies last night, so I hope it helped a bit.

I was watching my tape of I Love the 70's and it showed Linda Carter as Wonder Woman and Charisma just seems to have that voluptuous body type, the face, and everything. I think she has a better shot, plus I heard of some people on the radio making fun of SMG for practicly DEMANDING the role, or something which most likely wouldn't do good.

[LaLa247]

There's an interesting article on WW from three years ago <a href= "http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A29691-2001Apr17&notFound=true">here</a>.
The Lowdown

Some things you may or may not need to know about WW:

• Her Amazon bracelets, which she uses to deflect bullets, are actually symbols of her all-female tribe's enslavement under Hercules. Sometimes, one of her enemies will cut them off her wrists, and Wonder Woman goes berserk. On the other hand, if you solder the bracelets together, she becomes weak.

• She used to have an alter ego, a secret identity: Diana Prince, nerdy Pentagon employee. They wrote that part out years ago.

• She hasn't had sex in 15 years.

• There is no more invisible airplane.

That pretty much catches you up. If you tell a joke, does Wonder Woman get it?

"Oh, she gets jokes," Jimenez says. "She actually loves humor, but you have to remember, she's not from here, so maybe she doesn't always appreciate the joke. . . . She's reading a book on gender theory right now. She thinks it's fascinating and kind of funny." Hollywood has again turned its greedy, villainous eyes toward the Amazing Amazon; [...]"I offered them my Wonder Woman bible," Jimenez says, referring to the sheer tonnage of contemplation and thinking and research he's done into this imaginary goddess, "and they said no. They didn't want it."

[...]

Instead, he is deeply involved in a new story line, penciling the rough storyboard. In this issue, Wonder Woman will let Lois Lane do a Daily Planet profile of her. Lois's motives here are suspect (she wants to find out if Wonder Woman has designs on her husband, Superman). In a "day in the life of Wonder Woman," Lois will follow the heroine to play basketball at youth shelters, then to Africa to hold infant refugees, then to a science lab to work on a cure for diabetes. After the long day, the two women go to a bar and shoot pool and Lois tries to pick Wonder Woman's brain.


I swear, if this doesn't look like a role made just for Charisma, I don't know what is...

[Lovin' Lorne]

Originally posted by LaLa247
...Lois's motives here are suspect (she wants to find out if Wonder Woman has designs on her husband, Superman).


I've always loved the idea of WW and Supes. Waaaay better than Lois, if ya ask me. Talk about a Dynamic Duo! If I recall, I think there was a comic series that did that. Or am I thinking of "Whom Gods Destroy" which gave Lois superpowers and <i>she</i> became WW...

Why do I know so much about this? Why have I lost sight of the topic of this thread?

I hope they do cast Charisma as WW. They have to realize how perfect she'd be. Any one but SMG or AHD. Please.

[AC4ever!]

I think Charisma will get the part. She is the perfect Wonder Woman.

[lex]

Saw this Rucka also commented that one-time frontrunner (in the eyes of some fans, at least) for the role of Wonder Woman, Charisma Carpenter more than likely ruined her chances by posing nude for Playboy. (http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12510%20...) at a couple of sites today. I don't know how high up this guy is, or, if Charisma ever had a real shot anyway (seems to me that they were looking for a "name" in order to draw in box office numbers). But anyway, it sucks that the comment was made. :cry:

[Penny Century]

Greg Rucka writes, or used to write, the WW comic series. I'm sure he knows quite a bit about how DC Comics' internal politics work; whether that will have a lot to do with any potential film adaptation is another question. Dan Didio, another DC guy, seems to think their influence is limited.

My take is that it seems unlikely that CC's extremely sharp new manager wouldn't have advised against her doing anything that could ruin her shot at a role she really wanted. Who knows, though. I do know that the film itself has been a nonpriority for a long time now and seems to have fallen into perpetual turnaround; in fact, the most interest I've seen in it in years was directly related to CC saying she wanted the role, so we'll have to see.

[lex]

Thanks for the backstory on Greg Rucka, Penny. ITA on the agent front, I mean this is the same guy that took Renee' Z. form Texas Chainsaw Massacre to Oscar winner so I'm sure he is giving her sound advice.

[Penny Century]

Well, it's interesting to note that reaction around the Web indicates that many people think CC will be better off without a WW movie. The phrase "It's going to suck even worse than Catwoman" has sprung up more than once.

[lex]

I think I'm in the she's better off without it camp as well. I haven't been too particularly impressed with movies based on comic books lately.

[ehab]

I'd love to see Charisma get a good super-hero role where she can kick some ass. It definitely doesn't have to be wonder woman, but whatever it is it must be good. I hope she and her manager don't take any role that comes along, just for the super hero-y goodness. I don't think they would.

In this day and age of over-zealous censoring, I'm feeling more and more admiration for her Playboy spread, you know besides the initial 'gah' factor.

She's already brave, strong and principled...she's just needs the right role to show it off.

[lex]

Well, Quentin Tarantino is talking about possibly making a Kill Bill vol.3. If he does I would love to see Charisma in that.

[Penny Century]

Personally, I'd love to see Charisma in the upcoming movie(s) based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter, Warlord of Mars series. She'd make an ideal Dejah Thoris, and I can totally imagine Rodriquez action-ing up the role for her.

[ehab]

Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter, Warlord of Mars series. She'd make an ideal Dejah Thoris.

Would people recommend this to read?

I think I saw this as a suggested role for her over at Charisma-Carpenter.com too.

At the risk of totally alienating LaLa and others, I'm not too excited about Kill Bill. I tried, but truthfully I just can't get past the gore in Quentin's films. It's not that I don't think he isn't very clever, but they're just too bloody for me. I had to cover my eyes during Resevoir Dogs.

If she got to use the Katana though, I might be able to overlook the bloodiness.

[LaLa247]

Personally, I'd love to see Charisma in the upcoming movie(s) based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter, Warlord of Mars series. She'd make an ideal Dejah Thoris, and I can totally imagine Rodriquez action-ing up the role for her.
Hey, he asked for her once before for The Faculty. Now, unless that experience told him to "just stick with Salma- people are gonna turn ya down!" ;) ,I don't see why he won't do it again.

Kill Bill Vol. 3 wouldn't really be so, since it'll be Kill Beatrix (oh, come on, the movie's called "Kill Bill", like you didn't know how it was gonna end). Quentin said it would take place 15 years later with Vivica A. Fox's daughter Nikki coming back to get revenge on Bea (Uma) and her daughter B.B. Since Charisma doesn't look blonde or tiny, I can't see Charisma fitting into the fold.

But he is also doing a war epic Inglorious Bastards AND possibly the new Bond film...

OH! And Tarantino and Rodriquez are also collaborating on Sin City! Remember, a tiny role does a looooong way- look at Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction...

Dammit, she will work with Rodriquez or Tarantino if it kills me!!!11!!

EHab, "Kill Bill" is so cartoonishly gory, I don't see how people can be offended, y'know? It's honestly like a live-action cartoon. He made a friggin' cartoon- GoGo is a walking anime, for crap's sake! lol

[rolandro]

Thanks for the backstory on Greg Rucka, Penny. ITA on the agent front, I mean this is the same guy that took Renee' Z. form Texas Chainsaw Massacre to Oscar winner so I'm sure he is giving her sound advice.

Playboy is a calculated risk, of course. But from what I've seen, her layout is pretty modest and tasteful. Rucka is an AMAZING writer, btw. Shooting at Midnight is one of my all time fav. reads. He's got a thriller series, however lately he's been all comicbooks all the time. But all respect aside, he's a WRITER, and not a PRODUCER, so his opinion is just as weightless as every other asshole's. This might be just me, but I got the impression he liked the idea of CC in the role and didn't agree with her PB decision. I mean that, versus - 'thank god she fucked up. I didn't like her anyway.' (Rucka - get back to fiction, you boob.)

CC's playing it right - keep busy. Keep putting yourself in the way, making sure people see you. It's a matter of time.

[ehab]

I don't see how people can be offended, y'know?

I'm definitely not offended, just queasy. :)

[daydreamer]

EHab, "Kill Bill" is so cartoonishly gory, I don't see how people can be offended, y'know? It's honestly like a live-action cartoon. He made a friggin' cartoon- GoGo is a walking anime, for crap's sake! lol

It was really cartoonish, but even knowing that I could only watch about half of it. Still grossed me out and it kind of bothered me how much my friends were enjoying some of the stuff. It's not realistic violence, but I still couldn't take it. I didn't really like the whole premise though, so I guess that didn't really help either :rolleyes:

[Morrigan]

My only comment is to back up what Penny said, there is no real talk of this movie at the moment. The only time it got any attention is when CC made it public that she wanted to play this character. It could be years before it ever gets made, if it gets made at all. They're still trying to bring Superman back to the big screen and that should have been a done deal after Smallvilles first season.

Also, I'm not sure what kind of pull DC Comics would have with the movie, or if the eventual Director/Producer will get their vision out there (ala the director of Harry Potter:POA).

[LaLa247]

Didn't Lynda Carter have a pictorial in Playboy? :eyebrow:

[Morrigan]

Ask Dimitri, he'd know ;)

[tojoson]

i don't know obout playboy, but i know she appeared topless in a movie 'bobbie jo and the outlaw' released in 1976 the same year wonder woman premiered on tv, so it had to have been made before WW.

playboy did show some stills from the movie in one of their pictorials

[askew]

I would hate to have her appear in a horrible, cheesy version of Wonder Woman.

And as much as I love Charisma's work, I wouldn't see her in Kill Bill Vol. 3 for free.

EHab, "Kill Bill" is so cartoonishly gory, I don't see how people can be offended, y'know? It's honestly like a live-action cartoon. He made a friggin' cartoon- GoGo is a walking anime, for crap's sake! lol

I actually loved Pulp Fiction and Resovoir Dogs and I was horribly offended by this film. It was completly unnecessary violence and the rape scenes made me angrier than I have been since Short Cuts. There were about 10 people who walked out of the theatre during my showing of Kill Bill Vol. 1 and I seriously regret not walking out of that movie.

[Mab]

Didn't Lynda Carter have a pictorial in Playboy? :eyebrow:

I don't know about Playboy, but she had one in Penthouse.

[Headed4Hollywood]

I agree regarding Kill Bill 3... Quentin Terrentino scares me lol.

As for the whole thing about Charisma losing her front running spot for WW? Puh-lease. I think it will all blow over, sure some of the execs may think it's controversal at this point, but these things have a tendancy to be forgotten. I hate how a celebrity can't do one thing they want to do, without a zillion comments on how it will affect their careers. meh.

In the mean time, maybe post-cards to execs/marvel/studios wouldn't hurt;)

*Daphne

[KarKar]

My take on Rucka was that he wasn't speaking for himself but was responding from the scuttlebutt around the offices.

I'd hate that this would take CC out of the role she's really interested in but unfortunately it's one of the risks of doing nudes.

And yeah, I think CC could do something better than Tarantino. I was surprised at how boring Resevoir Dogs turned out to be and can't get excited about Kill Bill which sounds like a video homage to his favorites. I think those fights with Spike Lee rattled something too hard.

[tojoson]

well, it seems that Brad Pitt has done some nude shots for Vanity Fair.
does anyone think this will hurt his chances in his next movie

however, i have concerns about CC doing this movie,
the track record for comics to movies being successful is pretty poor, the producers keep trying to futz with the storylines to get their own visions of the characters, and this doesn't match with what everyone knows, so the movie fails (like roger corman choosing Talisa Soto as Vampirella--if he was doing this movie he would probably cast Lara Flynn Boyle or Calista Flockhart as WW).

i think CC would be better served to get a role as a NEW kick-ass character, where there's no preconcieved ideas of her character.

i would like to see CC create a character who, when the film is remade 30 years down the road, everybodys preconcieved idea of the character is Charisma Carpenter

[LaLa247]

well, it seems that Brad Pitt has done some nude shots for Vanity Fair. May I just say that that man is beautiful. Forty years old, yes, he is. :naughty:

(like roger corman choosing Talisa Soto as Vampirella--if he was doing this movie he would probably cast Lara Flynn Boyle or Calista Flockhart as WW).
Well, it worked soooo well to cast Tobey Maguire as Spiderman...

I don't see a problem with Talisa Soto being Vampirella- she's pretty...vampy. And gorgeous to boot.

[tojoson]

i agree, talisa soto is pretty, and vampy, and gorgeous but she was not in danger of falling out of her top all the time, which is the image of vampirella that comic readers have. Julie Strain would have been a better choice.

now i'll grant that image isn't everything, but it is a big part of a pre-existing character. Cathy Lee Crosby did not fit the image of Wonder Woman in the first movie, but Lynda Carter did in the series

[KarKar]

well, it seems that Brad Pitt has done some nude shots for Vanity Fair.
does anyone think this will hurt his chances in his next movie
Double standard sure, but I don't think nudity is viewed the same way for men. Especially not one who is already an A-lister.

Nor is Vanity Fair the same as Playboy. Hypocritical probably but having Annie Leibawitz or whoever shoot you for a nude cover on that is more "art."


And I agree with you on Julie Strain. The woman has the figure and campy aspect for Vampirella but I wonder if age was an issue. She's been around for awhile compared to Talisa. Also, Julie's one of the best B actresses around, which can be a pro and con. Although for Corman, that shouldn't matter. The guy who churns out stuff like the "Wasp Woman" isn't going to be breaking into the same league as Cameron but should take advantage of the built in audience that Julie has.

[webwarlock]

Ok I got them.

This is from "Woder Woman: The Ultimate Guide to the Amazon Princess" by Scott Beatty DK Publishers.

http://home.comcast.net/~brannantim/kitten/wonderwoman.jpg

and a close up.

http://home.comcast.net/~brannantim/kitten/wonderwomanclose.jpg

I mean the hair and the smile is SO CC.

Warlock

[cordyfan83]

It was completly unnecessary violence and the rape scenes made me angrier than I have been since Short Cuts.

there was more than one rape scene in Kill Bill 1?

i'm kind of curious (and not at all trying to instigate anything) but what angered you about Kill Bill exactly? if i recall correctly, the rape scene wasn't too graphic.

and without spoiling things, i highly suggest Kill Bill 2, the body count and blood is drastically reduced and there's an increase in exposition. i can't really say if one was better than the other because they honestly were very different. (IMHO)

and...to make this post actually CC-related, CC is great. that is all.

[Visionity28]

agreed- Kill Bill Vol. 2 was VERY different from the first vol. It had more emotions, calmer scenes- it was amazing and impressive (as usual for tarantino work).

[askew]

there was more than one rape scene in Kill Bill 1?

i'm kind of curious (and not at all trying to instigate anything) but what angered you about Kill Bill exactly? if i recall correctly, the rape scene wasn't too graphic.

and without spoiling things, i highly suggest Kill Bill 2, the body count and blood is drastically reduced and there's an increase in exposition. i can't really say if one was better than the other because they honestly were very different. (IMHO)

and...to make this post actually CC-related, CC is great. that is all.

For me, Kill Bill Vol. 1 had too much senseless violence. I don’t mind violence in movies, if it serves a purpose and isn’t gratuitous. KBV1 just went way, way over the line in my opinion. The violence was played as fun. They seemed to stretch out the killing of someone way beyond what was needed. The movie’s tone towards violence seemed to be more in line with the scene in True Romance where Patricia Arquette gets the cr*p beat out of her for about 5 minutes (also written by QT). It’s just completely unnecessary and disgusting, in my opinion. The two implied rape scenes were Uma, while she was faking a coma and the little girl under the bed, while her mom gets raped. The first scene seemed to be played for laughs and I just think rape is a subject that should never be played for laughs.

I think I'll be skipping KBII just to be on the safe side.

[rousedower]

For me, Kill Bill Vol. 1 had too much senseless violence. I don’t mind violence in movies, if it serves a purpose and isn’t gratuitous. KBV1 just went way, way over the line in my opinion. The violence was played as fun. They seemed to stretch out the killing of someone way beyond what was needed. The movie’s tone towards violence seemed to be more in line with the scene in True Romance where Patricia Arquette gets the cr*p beat out of her for about 5 minutes (also written by QT). It’s just completely unnecessary and disgusting, in my opinion. The two implied rape scenes were Uma, while she was faking a coma and the little girl under the bed, while her mom gets raped. The first scene seemed to be played for laughs and I just think rape is a subject that should never be played for laughs.

I don't think O'Ren's mother was raped. They threw her on the bed and then stabbed her. I originally thought she was gonna be raped though.

I agree with you on the Coma!Rape. It was unnecessary, like when Marcellus was raped in "Pulp Fiction". But it was quintessential Tarantino, so it didn't really shock me. I think it was played for laughs because you knew that The Bride was gonna kick his ass for it. And she did. Did she kill Buck and that other guy, or just hurt them really badly? Either way, she got her revenge on him.

[Visionity28]

You have to remember that its also JUST a movie. You can't take everything so personal.There was an almost-rape scene on BTVS- you remember, Spike and B? Look, obviously not everyone is going to agree. Kill Bill wasn't hardcore to me and I love that film- Tarantino has such a creative eye and I'd love to see CC in one of his future films.

Also, O'Ren's mother WASN'T raped.

We've seen far worse in other movies- you have to admit that.

[cordyfan83]

For me, Kill Bill Vol. 1 had too much senseless violence. I don’t mind violence in movies, if it serves a purpose and isn’t gratuitous. KBV1 just went way, way over the line in my opinion. The violence was played as fun. They seemed to stretch out the killing of someone way beyond what was needed. The movie’s tone towards violence seemed to be more in line with the scene in True Romance where Patricia Arquette gets the cr*p beat out of her for about 5 minutes (also written by QT). It’s just completely unnecessary and disgusting, in my opinion. The two implied rape scenes were Uma, while she was faking a coma and the little girl under the bed, while her mom gets raped. The first scene seemed to be played for laughs and I just think rape is a subject that should never be played for laughs.

I think I'll be skipping KBII just to be on the safe side.

Oh yeah, forgot about that scene. Personally I was more offended by the sight of a grown man in bed with the very young (not-so-innocent) O'Ren Ishii. Sure it was a cartoon, but as far as I can recall, that was the only scene that made me uncomfortable when I first saw it. ( I was a little scared where it was going).

I can see your point about how QT dealt with the hospital rape in a pretty "light" way. But on the other hand, it was sort of told from the point of view of Buck and the male nurse. In their eyes, they probably did think of it as a joke and did not consider how wrong wrong wrong it was. I think it led to more of a justification for what The Bride did to them after. (Maybe justification is too strong of a word, but it certainly helped them to look less sympathetic to the audience.)

And honestly, I don't work for Miramax or anything but in Vol. 2 you can count the number of onscreen deaths on one hand, and I am pretty sure they filmed it using only about 1L of fake blood. :grin: